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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

I am not sure that it is correct to brand the senior people that we have had appearing before the committee as recalcitrant and resistant to change. Claire Burns from CELCIS talked about concerns about “unpicking everything”. Martin Crewe, who has decades of experience in children’s services, said:

“I cannot see that the national care service would have a big positive impact.”—[Official Report, Education, Children and Young People Committee, 16 November 2022; c 36.]

Jackie Irvine, from the Care Inspectorate, talked about “disruption”. I am not sure that it is right to dismiss them as simply being resistant to change.

My main question is about the fact that children’s services were clearly an afterthought. Why were they not included in the Feeley report, and why have you still not decided, even though the bill is currently going through the legislative process, whether they will be included?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

Why can you not give me a figure, Mr Stewart?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

No—I am not asking you to pluck a figure; I am just asking you to give me an accurate one. I cannot understand that. It proves my point that you are making it up as you go along. You do not know how much the proposals will cost.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

Members of the finance committee, including members of your party, have criticised you for not having the finances. You quoted a figure of £1.5 billion, but that is not the cost of restructuring the system to include children’s services; I presume that it would be the cost of providing the children’s services themselves. I am asking what the additional cost would be of including children’s services in the national care service’s structure.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

The minister has just talked about being presented with risk. Has the risk not been caused by moving ahead with a national care service without having thought about where children’s services will go? Is it not the case that the Government has caused the risk that you have talked about, minister?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

Mr Stewart, you will have seen Daren Fitzhenry’s contribution to the Health, Social Care and Sport Committee yesterday, in which he expressed concerns that the proposed changes would potentially give ministers sweeping powers to limit the scope of his investigations into social care complaints. What is your response to that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

Irrespective of the conclusion on children’s services?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

Well, that is clearly not the case.

Can you tell me how much this will cost? What will the additional cost be for restructuring the service to include children’s services? What will be the cost of including children’s services?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

So what is the figure?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Willie Rennie

I just want the cost of the restructure.