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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
You would have thought that the people who are in charge of the organisation—the decision makers; in other words, the critical people who consider such things—might be slightly distracted by such a big change.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
My amendments in this group are about safeguarding and the role of the inspectorate in checking the systems of, primarily, local authorities for identifying safeguarding issues and dealing with those appropriately.
The GTCS has a responsibility, but that is only for teachers, not other staff in schools. Also, the GTCS does not have responsibility for the system; its responsibility relates only to an individual’s fitness to teach. There is therefore a vacuum—a space—which has been identified, apparently, by Neil McLennan and his colleagues, who have campaigned on the issue.
I have had several discussions with the GTCS. It recognises the issue but also recognises the limitations on its powers, because it is funded by individual teachers in relation to fitness to teach and the regulation of teachers, not in relation to the wider system.
I have therefore sought in my amendments in this group to give responsibility to the chief inspector to check local authorities, primarily, on their inspection processes to ensure that the local authorities deal appropriately with safeguarding and its systems, not just in relation to teaching staff but for other staff as well. Amendment 308 would add a requirement for inspections to include a look at safeguarding arrangements. Amendment 332 sets out that the inspection plan would have to consider how inspections would be used to monitor safeguarding.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
You are here to represent the Funding Council. Surely you must have discussed those things.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
If there is a fire or a crisis in apprenticeships and, at the same time, another university gets into great difficulty, where will the chief executive spend her time?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
What proportion of her time will she devote to apprenticeships? Surely you must have an idea of how she will divide her time in relation to an issue that is so important for the country, albeit that it involves a relatively small amount of funding.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
Who within the Scottish Funding Council will be in charge of the apprenticeships programme? The chief executive who is currently responsible spends all his time focusing on apprenticeships. When matters are transferred to the SFC, will the chief executive there, with all her authority, power and influence, be in charge of them?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
You are saying that you just do not recognise that power imbalance.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
Okay. I will come to my question for SAAS in a minute, but first of all I want to turn to the Scottish Funding Council. You say that you will prioritise apprenticeships, but let us consider the power that universities—and, to a lesser extent, colleges—hold versus that of the individuals and smaller companies who benefit from apprenticeships, and let us also compare the scale of the funding. If there were a crisis in some part of the other areas for which you are responsible—in other words, colleges or universities—you would surely be under enormous pressure to take funding from apprenticeships to plug that hole. Knowing the balance of power across the various areas that you fund, you cannot tell me that apprenticeships will not be vulnerable if there are problems elsewhere.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
We have the bill to consider, though.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 7 May 2025
Willie Rennie
You can see why we have a problem. Authoritative people, whom we respect, are telling us one thing, but you are telling us another—there is no coming together at all.