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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Liam Kerr wants to come in.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Monica, I know that the minister does not need defending, but she came at fairly short notice today. This meeting was not planned until the latter part of last week, so the Government has shown the committee some flexibility, and I thank the minister for that.
As no member has indicated that they have further questions, I thank the minister and her officials for taking part.
We move to agenda item 4, which is consideration of the consent notification for the Biocidal Products (Health and Safety) (Amendment) Regulations 2022, which have yet to be laid. The Scottish Government proposes to consent to the instrument, as we addressed in our consideration of agenda item 3.
Several options are open to the committee, all of which would result in our sending a letter to the Scottish Government, stating our view. The first is that, if members are content, we can approve the proposal to consent. The committee will then write to the Scottish Government, indicating as much.
Secondly, members can approve the proposal to consent and, in the letter confirming that, seek further information on any further queries that they might have.
If members are not content with the proposal, the recommendations that we can make to the Scottish Government are listed in paragraph 9 of paper 3. We could indicate that the Scottish Government should not give consent and propose either that it produce an alternative Scottish legislative solution or that it request that the provisions be made in a UK SI laid in both Parliaments under the joint procedure, or we could indicate that the provision should not be made at all. I hope that I have made the options clear.
If members have no comments on the evidence that we have heard—and I am not seeing anyone leaping in to make a comment—I will move to the substantive question on this item. Is the committee content for the provision set out in the notification to be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument??
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
We are agreed. Gosh—that was simple and saved us from having a vote.
We will write to the Scottish Government to that effect by its deadline of 11 October 2022. Is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off a letter to the Scottish Government, informing it of our decision today??
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Agenda item 5 is consideration of another consent notification for a UK statutory instrument that has not yet been laid.
The Scottish Government proposes to consent to the instrument, which, as the clerk’s paper indicates, relates to the new UK chemicals regulatory regime for persistent organic pollutants.
As discussed under the previous agenda item, a protocol has been agreed between the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament for situations in which the Scottish Government proposes to consent to certain types of secondary legislation made by the UK Government as a result of EU exit. The protocol sets out how the Scottish Parliament may scrutinise such decisions. There is a statutory requirement that the Scottish Government’s consent be sought for this proposed instrument.
I refer members to the paper for this item. Again, multiple options are open to the committee on the consent notification. I will not go through them all again—they are exactly the same as those for the consent notification that we have just considered.
If members have no comments, I will move to the substantive question. Is the committee content that the provision set out in the notification be made in the proposed UK statutory instrument??
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
We are agreed. We will write to the Scottish Government to that effect. Is the committee content to delegate authority to me to sign off a letter to the Scottish Government, informing it of our decision today??
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Agenda item 2 is an evidence session on the legislative consent memorandum on the United Kingdom Levelling-up and Regeneration Bill. I refer members to the briefing papers from the clerk and the Scottish Parliament information centre.
The bill?was introduced to the UK Parliament on 11 May 2022. On 27 July, the Scottish Government lodged a legislative consent memorandum on it, which said that the bill touches on devolved legislative or executive competence in three main areas, including on environmental law through the proposed introduction of environmental outcomes reports. Those will be the focus of our scrutiny.
Today, we will hear the views of three witnesses. I welcome Lloyd Austin, convener of the Scottish Environment LINK governance group; Robbie Calvert, policy, practice and research officer at the Royal Town Planning Institute; and David Melhuish, director of the Scottish Property Federation. Thank you all for accepting our invitation. We are delighted to have you here.
We have around 60 minutes for this evidence session. I remind members that I am a qualified surveyor and that I have a planning interest behind me from when I was in private practice.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
We move to questions from Jackie Dunbar next; we will come to the deputy convener later.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Thank you for that explanation, minister, and for notifying the committee by letter so that we could consider that prior to today’s meeting.
The first questions come from Jackie Dunbar.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
I will bring in Dan Merckel on that. It is unlikely that most chemical manufacturers will see the UK as a big enough market to develop a product for. Surely they will do that for the UK and the EU in tandem.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 4 October 2022
Edward Mountain
Now it is the deputy convener’s turn.
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