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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 20th meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee. Monica Lennon is joining us remotely, and we have received apologies from Mark Ruskell. Graham Simpson has joined us for the main item in public, and I will give him time for questions at the end of that session.

Agenda item 1 is a decision on taking business in private. Are members happy to take in private item 3, which is consideration of the evidence that we will hear on Scottish Government transport policies and performance, and item 4, which is consideration of visits and engagements as part of our scrutiny of the Land Reform (Scotland) Bill?

Members indicated agreement.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Agenda item 2 is an evidence-taking session to take stock of the Scottish Government’s transport policies and performance at this point in the five-year parliamentary session. I welcome Fiona Hyslop, the Cabinet Secretary for Transport, and her supporting officials. Alison Irvine is the interim chief executive of Transport Scotland—is it still an interim post?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Bob, the clerks have asked me to clarify that your declaration of interests relates to the fact that what you have asked about is in your constituency, and not that you are getting any financial benefit in any shape or form. Is that right?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

If ScotRail comes to you with a figure, you have to sign it off. You have to say yea or nay.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

We will move on to Bob Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I am not sure that I understand more than we are currently holding it all together with sticky tape. There was a Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee report in the previous session of Parliament that said that the tripartite arrangement did not work, and the Government has had a committee report in the current session saying that the system does not work. We have a situation in which ferries, when they eventually come into service, having been ordered many moons ago, will be asked to operate in ports where infrastructures are not working.

Anyone can see that the arrangements are not working. Are we not going to see reform before the end of the current session of Parliament? If you are going to hold off until the end of Clyde and Hebrides ferries contract, which has been delayed for a year, we are talking about having very little time left in the session in which to rationalise an organisation that two committees have criticised.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

I thought that you were going to ask about it.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

In fairness, cabinet secretary, I have spent a huge amount of time discussing the A9 with the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. I think that I understand where we are at in the process, so I do not have any questions.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Transport Policies and Performance

Meeting date: 4 June 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay.

The deputy convener has some questions.