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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Mr Golden, we are about to come to your winding-up remarks on your own amendments, and the minister has come to a natural conclusion. I am conscious that everyone wants to debate the matter, and it is great that they want to do so, but there are some constraints on us.

Mr Golden, I now ask you to wind up, and perhaps you can make the point that you were going to make as part of that. I also ask whether you wish to press or withdraw amendment 141.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I am looking to see whether any other members want to say anything before I make a couple of points. I am happy to bring in Monica Lennon first.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I just want to make a couple of points, if I may.

First, I think that amendment 187 in the name of Bob Doris is interesting, and I understand where it has come from, given the evidence that we have received. My problem with it, however, is that I love tight legislation, because it stops arguments and disagreements.

I just note that there are, I believe, 78 countries in the global south. If I am right, the original definition related to countries that suffer from poor economic development and which perhaps lack democracy and have problems with their location, but it has since been changed to cover countries that have been affected by development—or more developed nations. I have real problems with that; I know of countries that are surrounded by other countries that are part of the global south, but they are not part of the global south themselves. As a result, they are excluded, even though, geographically, they are in the same position.

I therefore urge Mr Doris, as a committee member, to reconsider whether these things are defined correctly in his amendment, and perhaps to lodge a slightly different amendment at stage 3.

I am happy to give way to you, Mr Doris.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Will the minister take an intervention?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 93 disagreed to.

Amendments 132, 181, 182 and 208 to 210 not moved.

Amendment 94 moved—[Sarah Boyack]—and agreed to.

Amendment 183 not moved.

Amendments 95 to 97 moved—[Sarah Boyack]—and agreed to.

Amendment 133 moved—[Maurice Golden].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 7 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 133 disagreed to.

Amendments 98 and 134 not moved.

Amendment 135 moved—[Maurice Golden].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Did they come back and say, “Yes, we want these powers. We are cracking on and accept your business impact assessment that there is no cost involved in it”?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Okay. Sorry, Douglas, I jumped the gun.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

I would be happy for that information to be sent to the committee clerks after the meeting.

As there are no other questions, we will move on. Agenda item 3 is a debate on the motion calling for the committee to recommend approval of the draft order. I invite the minister to speak to and move motion S6M-12678.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 30 April 2024

Edward Mountain

Do any members want to say anything on the motion?

I do not mean to frighten members off. I understand the motion now, although I have struggled to come to terms with it, if I am honest. My concern is that I am not entirely clear that the two councils and the Strathclyde Partnership for Transport have taken on the transfer of functions voluntarily. In my opinion, it would be wrong to vote against the motion, but I would seek more clarity in future when we come to consider it.

Minister, is there anything that you would like to respond to in the debate? You could respond to me now, or you could just say that you are happy to take away the points that have been made.