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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 July 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Good morning, and welcome to the 17th meeting in 2024 of the Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee.

Our only agenda item is day 2 of consideration of the Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill at stage 2. I welcome Gillian Martin, the Minister for Climate Action, and her supporting officials. During the meeting, non-committee members—including Sarah Boyack, Maurice Golden, Clare Adamson and Graham Simpson—will appear. I welcome them all formally now. Later in the meeting, we might reach amendments that have been lodged by Murdo Fraser and Sue Webber, so I will welcome them formally now, too.

I will not go through all the things that I said at the previous meeting, but I briefly remind members that they should have with them the marshalled list of amendments, which sets out the order in which amendments will be disposed of, and the groupings document. If anyone does not have them, they are on the bill web page.

There will be one debate on each group of amendments. The member who lodged the first amendment in the group will speak to and move that amendment and, if they wish to, they will speak to other amendments in the group. I will then call other members who have amendments in the group to speak to, but not to move, their amendments and to speak to any other amendments in the group if they so wish. I will then call any other members who wish to speak in the debate. If any member wishes to speak, they just have to catch my eye.

Finally, I will call the member who moved the first amendment in the group to wind up. At that point, they should indicate whether they wish to press or withdraw the amendment. If the amendment is pressed, I will put the question on it. If they wish to withdraw their amendment, I will ask whether any member present objects. If there is an objection, I must put the question on the amendment.

Other amendments in a group are not debated again when they are reached, so, if they are moved, I will put the question on them straight away. If a member whose amendment has already been debated does not wish to move it, they should simply say, “Not moved.” Unless anyone else then says that they want to move the amendment, I will move straight on to the next amendment on the marshalled list.

I remind everyone that, if there is a division, only committee members may vote. Their choices are yes, no or abstain. Voting will be by a show of hands, and it is really important that members keep their hands raised until the clerk has recorded their names. No members are attending remotely, so that makes it somewhat easier.

At last week’s committee meeting, we ended consideration of the bill at section 5 and disposed of amendment 190, so we can head straight on. [Interruption.] Sorry—I will bring in Jackie Dunbar.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Amendment 82, in the name of Douglas Lumsden, is grouped with amendments 11, 148, 149, 12 to 14 and 152. I call Douglas Lumsden to move amendment 82 and speak to all amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 2, Against 5, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 87 disagreed to.

Amendment 198 moved—[Sarah Boyack].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I call Maurice Golden to speak to amendment 11 and any other amendments in the group.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much, minister. I ask Maurice Golden to wind up and to press or seek to withdraw amendment 4.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

The result of the division is: For 3, Against 4, Abstentions 0.

Amendment 145 disagreed to.

Amendments 193 and 194 not moved.

Amendment 146 moved—[Monica Lennon].

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Thank you very much. You have probably prompted Douglas Lumsden to say something, too.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

I ask you respectfully to ask a question when you make an intervention. Otherwise, we could be in danger of being here until 10 o’clock tonight.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Are you pressing?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Circular Economy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 14 May 2024

Edward Mountain

Amendment 81, in the name of Douglas Lumsden, is grouped with amendments 147 and 150. I call Douglas Lumsden to move amendment 81 and speak to all the amendments in the group.