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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

In response to Miles Briggs, you spoke about the call with Angela Constance. In the emails that were released, it says that on 27 November at 9.33 in the evening, you were told:

“I have a request from Ms Constance’s office for a private call with yourself.”

Was it a private call between you and Angela Constance? Were you aware of anyone else on the call?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Thank you—I will adjust my notes.

Ross Greer has a question on fair work in the college sector.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

The final item on schools is about the school estate, which is my question, but, to keep things brief, I will constrain it to one question.

I have asked you in the chamber and we have been in correspondence about the new Forres academy, which the Government is funding—that is very welcome. However, there are serious local concerns about where the school will be sited. That is rightly a planning matter and I know that you cannot intervene on that. Given some of the issues that we have raised about education in Moray, and the absence rates that you said that you would raise with COSLA, and given your affection for the area, given that that is where you started your career, would you be willing to come to Moray to discuss education issues and, while up there, meet some of the people who are concerned about the siting of the new academy on the Applegrove primary school site and the impact that it has on the veterans community, to make it clear that, although you cannot change any decisions, you can at least allow them to feel that they have been heard by the cabinet secretary, given that it is your Government that is funding the project?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Your party has been in Government for many years. Why do we not have mandatory reporting?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

I have a final question on the subject. We asked Professor Jay and the justice secretary about their correspondence and sought a clarification on what was said in the chamber. On “The Sunday Show”, you were asked about the issue, and you said:

“There was an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes.”

Was the statement that you gave on television in relation to the strategic group minutes correct?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

Yes. Regarding why the Official Report had not been updated, your response to Gary Robertson on “The Sunday Show” was:

“There was an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes.”

Professor Jay was very clear that that was a suggestion made by the Government.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

The way I listened to it on Sunday was that you were saying that the ask potentially came from Professor Jay or someone else. Do you accept that there was not an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes, because it was a Scottish Government response to Professor Jay’s letter?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

It was her preferred route because she was offered only two routes: a response from the cabinet secretary or that more public route of a clarification in the minutes. Were you briefed to say on “The Sunday Show” that

“There was an ask for clarification to be sought in relation to the strategic group minutes”?

You actually said it twice, and I can give you both quotes. It was a very particular quote, and it stuck with me. Were you told that that was the line to take? We have all been given lines to take, so was that what you were told to put across?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

As Mr Kidd mentioned victims and survivors, I invite George Adam to come in, as he wants to extend that line of questioning.

10:15  

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Douglas Ross

You have said that you are not in the practice of making private calls for Government business. Did you say that you think that the time that we are discussing was the only time that you have ever done that?