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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 October 2025
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

The Convener

I will ask a couple of final questions. Everything that has been said today has reminded us that Brexit was not an event but is a process. We are still going through that process and will be doing so for some time. Not only do we face UK elections, but the European elections are coming up. Those will delay any movement, although the European Commission will be up and running fairly soon afterwards.

You have talked about the importance of relationships and of building them. What tends to happen in the EU is that officials do three years on rotation, then move back to their country. We are now moving into a period in which many officials in Brussels will not remember the UK’s being part of that process, or will not have dealt with it. Will the challenges of keeping and maintaining those relationships therefore be harder? How much more effort do you have to put into building the key relationships in the organisations that you work with in Europe?

My other question will be about divergence, but I ask that one first.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

The Convener

You also mentioned regulation and change in Brussels and you spoke about divergence. Last week, producers told us about the amount of time that they are spending trying to keep on top of the regulations, and about the need for consultants. We also heard about a producer for whom the regulations changed mid-shipment, which caused a huge loss that the business could not sustain. That producer decided that it was too risky to continue trying to export.

The Welsh and Scottish Governments have made a commitment to keeping pace with EU regulation, and Northern Ireland is in the position of having to keep up with regulations. Is enough information being given by the UK and Scottish Governments to support producers that are trying to export in that context? Is that the major barrier? What are the other barriers that prevent smaller producers from coming back in, as time moves on and we learn lessons?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

The Convener

You have answered my questions. I am looking at committee members, but I do not think that there are any more questions.

I thank everyone. This has been an extremely helpful and informative session for our inquiry. We are not a subject committee, so it is quite unusual for us to get into front-line issues. We usually think more about constitutional aspects, so we have enjoyed the meetings.

The committee will now move into private session to deal with our final agenda item.

10:51 Meeting continued in private until 11:00.  

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 28 March 2024

The Convener

I have a couple more questions. Scott Walker—do you want to come in on that first question?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

Thank you for that. Finally, I invite Gary Stephenson from Devro to come in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

Yes.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

I wish you the best of luck.

Does Dario Riccomini or Paddy Jack want to comment on the border controls issue in particular?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

As Paddy Jack does not want to comment, I invite Gary Stephenson to come in.

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

Gary, did you want to come in again?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Review of the EU-UK Trade and Co-operation Agreement

Meeting date: 21 March 2024

The Convener

I am conscious of the time, so we will have to wrap things up, if everybody is okay with that.

Thank you very much for your evidence. We are not a subject committee, as such, so this type of evidence has been a bit unusual in our inquiry. Normally we take evidence from academics, people at Government level or trade bodies, so it has been really helpful to have an open discussion and hear the challenges being expressed so expertly by you all. I wish you all the very best for your businesses, and thank you for attending.

The committee will now move into private session.

10:50 Meeting continued in private until 11:15.