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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 December 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Dr Pathirana, I have to say that this is one of the most concerning evidence sessions that I have sat through as a member of this Parliament, because we are not really getting the answers that we need. I am sure that many of your members in different sectors will want these answers. I appreciate that you have said sorry, but it will not be good enough for an awful lot of people who are still waiting for their pay-out.

Before I come to my specific questions, I will ask you a matter of clarification. When you were answering the convener, you said that the data that you hold for the NHS and for teachers is not as good as the police data. Why is that?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

How are you measuring how effective that has been? Taking it at face value this morning, it is quite clear that there is a huge number of issues, and I am sure that people in your membership schemes are not exactly impressed by what they are hearing. What measurements are you using to persuade us that things are getting better?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

I am not sure that a rate of knots is the best terminology to use for this, but carry on.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

What I am asking about is your governance structures. As an organisation, you have to build trust and put in place measures so that people can feel, at last, that the SPPA can sort out their problem. That is the critical issue. I fully understand that there have been lots of challenges and difficulties along the way, but, when it comes down to what has to happen between now and resolving all the issues, you must ensure that you can put trust back into the system. I ask you to reflect on that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Ms Graham, that is surely a historical problem.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Has the SPPA not thought about the difficulties that that produces? It has obviously made the whole issue very considerable and problematic. In the past, has the SPPA looked at its structures to try to resolve it? It is a massive problem.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Can technology—artificial intelligence—help with that, rather than having to do so much manual work?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Have you communicated that problem to members?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Like the rest of my colleagues, I have constituents who are very concerned about it. As Mr Marra said, they feel that people’s decisions about their future and their families have virtually had to be put on hold, with the very considerable anxiety that comes with that.

One particular constituent is asking me what you have done in the SPPA about your governance issues. Have you gone through your governance addressing whether the SPPA is an efficient body that is capable of sorting out the problems that we are hearing about this morning?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

McCloud Remedy

Meeting date: 2 December 2025

Liz Smith

Tell me what you have done.