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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Earlier, you mentioned spending on a recruitment agency. I do not know if you are aware, but WICS recently issued a tender to seek a recruitment agency to find a new chief executive. If you include VAT, the value of that is around £45,000. That seems to be a large amount of money to find a new chief executive. Are you aware of that? If so, do you think that that is an appropriate figure? Indeed, should they be doing that in-house?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Do you know why the limit was removed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Okay. Have you had any explanation as to why the limit was removed?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Is WICS continuing to use business-class flights? I know that the hydro nation strategy has been paused, but have you come across any business-class flights being used?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I have one further question. After all our work and the evidence sessions that we have had with you and with WICS, I have been left with the nagging question whether we need such a regulator for Scottish Water, or a regulator in its current form, and whether it represents value for money. Is that something that you have considered?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Presumably, an organisation such as Scottish Enterprise would operate to a fairly strict set of rules around expenditure and entertaining.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I do not want to labour the point too much, but do we know the breakdown of costs for that travel and accommodation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

I was looking at the annual audit report on WICS for 2023-24. I do not know whether you have it in front of you, but page 33 says:

“Our targeted regularity testing identified 18 additional items of non-compliant expenditure, totalling £23,764, between April and December 2023.”

You mentioned that already. The report goes on to list some of those 18 additional items. I will not list them all, but I will mention a few. There were:

“Travel and accommodation costs of £1,441 for the KC”

—the King’s counsel, who was on a retainer—

“travelling to Edinburgh for a meeting with the former Chief Executive which were paid directly by the Commission rather than being invoiced”.

I will take that item alone. How did they manage to rack up a bill of £1,400 for travel and accommodation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

That would be useful.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2023/24 audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 9 January 2025

Graham Simpson

Thanks.