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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 9 November 2025
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Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Non-attendance is entirely separate, and I presume that the committee is content with that. The power relates only to the recall element.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It is a radical idea, convener. The answer is no, I had not considered it. If I was to think it through, I think that it would open up a hornet’s nest that we might not want to open. I imagine that the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities would have a pretty strong view were we to request a power of recall for councillors. I do not think that such a power exists anywhere in the UK.

If you were to suggest a stage 2 amendment along those lines, convener, I would probably resist it. [Interruption.] Convener, you seem to have sparked something off in the committee.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Good.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

My preference is that we leave it to subordinate legislation, possibly after a period of consultation by the Government.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

Thank you for the question, but what I have just read out perhaps supersedes it. We ought to reconsider that issue at stage 2. I am more than happy to work with the committee if it wants to be involved in that, because I want the bill to proceed, but I want to get it right.

I realise that there are other areas of the bill that your committee is not looking at where there are questions that should be answered and where things could be improved or changed. However, subordinate legislation is an area that the committee would look at because of your remit, so I invite you to consider the offer to work with me for stage 2.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I am not aware of any.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It would be out of scope, because the bill relates only to MSPs. It is an interesting idea, convener, but it is one that I would not agree with.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

It is always my preference to have powers set out in a bill, but sometimes that cannot be done. You have to trust ministers to do their job sometimes, Ms Clark—even I do that. [Laughter.] However, my preference in this instance—it will not surprise you to hear this—is that, if we can, we should apply the affirmative procedure, rather than the negative. We should use the highest possible level of parliamentary scrutiny.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee [Draft]

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill

Meeting date: 3 June 2025

Graham Simpson

I think that I have answered it.

Public Audit Committee [Draft]

“Scottish National Investment Bank”

Meeting date: 28 May 2025

Graham Simpson

I want to follow on from the convener’s line of questioning. I do not know whether you are a fan of the TV programme “Dragon’s Den”, but I am. One of the questions that the investors often ask is, “How will I get a return on my money if I invest in you?” They are thinking of an exit strategy. Does the investment bank ask that kind of question when it is making these investments? Ultimately, it needs to get a return.