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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 21 May 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

Is it the case that you take your main advice from the board, or is it actually your decision? If the board said, “Actually, we don’t really want to sell,” which is my impression of the board, could you potentially take a different view and say to the board, “Well, no, this actually looks okay to us.”?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

Yes, but we are trying to understand why you arrived at the conclusion that it was not value for money to continue with the Glen Rosa, as opposed to another option. Figures are therefore quite important in that regard. I completely accept that, if you were to go out and procure, you might arrive at a different figure, but you have based your assessment on something.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That is not commercially sensitive, Mr Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

It would be useful if this committee were to have those updates.

You mentioned the Crown Office. The Auditor General mentioned the Rangers case in his report. I will not ask you about that, but I will ask you about something more topical, and that is the Post Office. Are you allocating money for potential compensation for people who were wrongly convicted in Scotland?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That money would have to come from Scotland, would it not, because the prosecutions in Scotland were through the Crown Office?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

The “Electronic Procurement Card Review Management Report” was published in December 2023. I think that a freedom of information request—possibly from the Labour Party—revealed a whole series of very unusual purchases that were made via Scottish Government e-cards; I do not know whether they were physical cards.

People spent taxpayers’ money on a whole variety of things, including a number of books. There were six copies of “Women Hold Up Half the Sky: Selected Speeches of Nicola Sturgeon”—I imagine that that is fairly slim. There were 19 copies of “How To Run A Government: So That Citizens Benefit and Taxpayers Don’t Go Crazy”—it is probably a bit late for that. There was one copy of “Taxation: A Very Short Introduction”, which tells us that people adapt their activities in various ways to reduce the impact of taxation. There was also one copy of “Marx: A Very Short Introduction”; another book called “The Blunders of Our Governments”; various self-help books, including one on irritable bowel syndrome; and a copy of “Scotland’s Future”, which is a Scottish Government book. I do not know why you bought your own book.

You say in that report that all those various books and other things, such as midge repellent and a traffic fine, are appropriate. How can those things be appropriate?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

My concern is that, if the view is that all the various purchases, some of which I have read out, are deemed to be appropriate, this kind of nonsense will continue. Surely, it cannot be appropriate that you are buying books with titles such as “How To Run A Government”. That is not an appropriate use of taxpayers’ money.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

These are not books for development. Some of them are books that I might put on my Christmas list, and I would buy them—although not the book of Nicola Sturgeon’s speeches, of course. They are not about learning and development. A book about Marx is not helping anyone’s learning and development, unless it is the Green Party.

I will take you up on that offer and write to you.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

That would not put the yard at a competitive disadvantage. We only want to know the estimate of the cost of completing the vessel. That would not affect the yard’s competitiveness. It should not be a secret.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 report: “The 2022/23 audit of the Scottish Government Consolidated Accounts”

Meeting date: 18 January 2024

Graham Simpson

I am aware of that, but you are here in front of the Public Audit Committee being asked for a figure, and you are trying to hide behind the chief executive.