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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Of course they were going to publish it—it was pretty scandalous. It is a story, so it is going to get published.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Perhaps that is why you needed the advice of 3x1 or somebody like it, so that you did not make those assertions again.

I am going to ask whoever wants to answer this question about the Grant Thornton audit, which I thought was pretty revealing. Those auditors examined only a sample of items of expenditure—not everything—and only 53 per cent of what they looked at complied with procedure. How did we get to a position where just over half—well, let us say half—of things did not comply?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

How much are you paying the agency?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

It seems like a bit of a dig at Audit Scotland. Anyway, I will leave it there.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

Okay, and you do not think that the former CEO was guilty of gross misconduct. Did he do anything wrong that would have merited his leaving the organisation?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

So there was evidence that he had failed.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

I have another question, which is for Mr McGill. It relates to an email that you sent on 11 June. It says, and I am just going to read the whole paragraph:

“I know enough to understand the recipients of these MBA/Executive training courses did nothing wrong, so no implied criticism from me. As you say”—

the email was to Mr Satti—

“other less well informed people (with agendas) may profess to see it differently.”

Who are you referring to?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

The media?

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

So they looked at the wrong subset. If they had looked at everything, it would have been a different figure.

Public Audit Committee

Section 22 Report: “The 2022/23 Audit of the Water Industry Commission for Scotland”

Meeting date: 19 September 2024

Graham Simpson

I am a pretty calm guy, believe it or not, but when I was going through all of this, I found myself getting angrier and angrier just reading the various items of expenditure. For example, appendix 3 of the Grant Thornton report sets out

“Sampled expenditure with no itemised receipts”.

That table contains a number of things. Here is a meal, for instance: £566 for “Dinner for four people” at La Garrigue in Edinburgh. The convener has mentioned the dinner at L’escargot Blanc—I do not think that that restaurant exists any more but it can correct me if I am wrong—and there was a meal in Gaucho Edinburgh. There were also costs relating to a Barbados study tour—what was that particular one all about?

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