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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

We have mentioned the reserves position before at the committee, and we have probably asked you about this, but we cannot seem to agree what the indicators are. We have categories such as contingency funds, earmarked, unearmarked, committed and not committed. There is a myriad of terms that, frankly, we struggle to understand, so we do not know where the various bits of money that local authorities have tucked away are and what they will be used for. I have probably asked you this before, Jo, but do you think that we will get a clearer picture and an agreed set of criteria for that stuff?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Thanks very much to both of you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Good morning. I will start with you, Jo. The committee often hears extremely different points of view depending on who is sitting in your chairs, particularly about local government finances. The Improvement Service benchmarking framework seems to present a more positive picture of local government finances, certainly in terms of debt management and healthy reserves, but on the other hand we hear from our colleagues in the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities about how serious the position is. Why is there such a divergence in opinion when in essence we are talking about the same thing—local government finance?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Would you see yourselves recommending some kind of consistent, standardised way of describing the issue? Would you ask the Government to formalise it so that we do not continue to get a varying picture, depending on which council we talk to? Would that be a useful tool?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

My other question is about capital funding. Do councils have any mechanisms open to them for capital funding, other than capital grants, borrowing, and so forth? Are there any other measures that they may be able to deploy locally so that they can deliver?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 24 September 2024

Willie Coffey

One councillor in particular, who is head of finance at Cardiff Council, is reported as saying that, with regard to councils in Wales,

“higher central funding from the Welsh Government has helped them stay afloat when some English councils are collapsing.”

That is quite a statement to make. It is clear that that councillor thinks that, in Wales, there is a better relationship with central Government that has enabled Welsh councils to avoid the disasters that some of the English councils have encountered. Can you add anything to what you have said, Abdool?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That is fantastic.

I have a more general question about the regional impact of the just transition. How do we watch out for the regional imbalance being negative in some parts of Scotland? Professor Bell, you talked about where in Scotland the jobs will be and how we will monitor that. Is there a risk that parts of Scotland could be left behind because of the journey that we are making? How do both Governments make adjustments to ensure that that does not happen and that everybody can share in the journey to net zero?

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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

I will drag us back to heat pumps for a wee moment. Murdo Fraser led some questions on heat pumps and why we are significantly off track, for which there are probably a number of reasons. When I talk to my constituents, they tell me that the quality of the information that they get is not enough and that they do not get assurance. The cost of heat pumps is a factor, because electricity is much more expensive than gas. There are a number of reasons why people are not making the switch, despite reasonable efforts to put grant money on the table.

What do you think will prompt a significant transition, particularly in private residential homes in Scotland, where persuading people to make the shift is still a huge problem? Could Scotland’s councils play a role in that? I think that a House of Lords committee made that recommendation. I could not imagine quoting a House of Lords report in the Scottish Parliament, but it could be sensible for Scotland’s councils to take a leading role, if they were able to do so. People might trust advice from their local authority, particularly if they were involved in the transition process. What key ingredients would ramp up the transition to heat pumps on the kind of scale that we really need if we are to get anywhere near the standards?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

Is there no idea at the moment? Does the Government—and perhaps even the college network—not know what is required?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Just Transition

Meeting date: 18 September 2024

Willie Coffey

That sounds really encouraging, but, given those impacts, do you still think that we will achieve the required ramping up? On the evidence base, for example, it would be crucial for people to be able to speak to others who have made the change and ask them how much it costs them per month. That is key for me, as is having bigger incentives. I am afraid that there would have to be greater incentives for people to make the switch so that it makes it worth their while to do so. Along with that evidence base, Professor Bell, that might be the key to changing attitudes. Would you agree?