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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
This is my last question for the moment. Again, it is on the quality issue, which is crucial and goes to the heart of much of all this. In paragraph 62 of the report, you mention that
“the quality of fabrication was not acceptable”
and that
“vessel parts were not being built to the correct specification or standards.”
In paragraph 138, you report that Ferguson had installed
“1,400 cables that ... were too short”
and that, following a survey by the newly appointed turnaround director, all of them will have to be replaced, which will lead to more expense and more delay. The report notes that there are more than 8,000 remaining cables still to go in.
I simply ask this: who on earth sanctioned the installation of cables that were too short to do a particular job? Why did nobody spot that early on, at the outset? Why did it take a new director to come in to suddenly discover that? In your view, Auditor General, does that not point to incompetent management and construction processes from the outset?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
So it was not noticeable until late on the process that the cables in the vessels were too short.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
I will ask about the general application of quality standards. That is a recurring theme, as we all know, but in this case, they apply to the shipbuilding industry. Over many years, the committee has heard about the importance of thorough planning and design at the outset of any project, whether it be a piece of software, a bridge or vessels, as in this case.
On page 25 is your report, you say that Ferguson started building the vessels before the designs were agreed with CMAL, which led to substantial reworking being required, with
“increased costs and delays”
and
“no link to quality standards.”
Those are the words in your report.
Why was that allowed to happen at the outset? Surely nobody would start building something before they knew what they were being asked to build. Do such failures mean that there was little prospect of a successful construction outcome further down the line?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Thanks very much, convener, and madainn mhath to the panel from NHS Highland. I start by reminding everyone that when a health board comes before the Public Audit Committee it is usually because of Audit Scotland knocking on the door and this Scottish Parliament committee having a look at matters.
To your great credit, you appear to have turned your finances around. However, my question is, how can there be such a transformation on finances with no impact on healthcare, or the public’s perception of it, in NHS Highland? You said that nothing of significant concern resulted from that. If you do not mind, please tell us how that can be.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Thank you for that, Pamela. That is very encouraging. Tapadh leat.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Do you engage directly with the public? If you are saying, “We used to spend all this money on delivering this care and we no longer do that”, does that have an impact, or are you still able to deliver the same level and quality of care through the transformation process that you have embraced as a result of the Audit Scotland report and the Public Audit Committee’s interest in the work that you do?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Sorry, Antony—I just want to come in here. Did Ferguson dispute that the cables were too short?
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Okay—thank you.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
I know that none of us is an expert in building ships. Nonetheless, Auditor General, do you recognise that some of these issues are recurring themes for the Public Audit Committee? For example, proper investment and effort in design at the early stage gives every project, no matter what it is, a fair chance of success. If you do not invest that energy at the outset, you are unlikely to be successful at the end of the process.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 28 April 2022
Willie Coffey
Thank you for that.