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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 10 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

I take that point. My final question on part 1 relates to the resources that are involved. I am not going to stray into the financial memorandum, because I know that Sharon Dowey wants to ask questions about that. This probably applies to the bill more widely, not just to part 1. You have said more than once that there is no suggestion that funding for it should come from existing resources. That begs the question of where it should come from.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Okay, well, let us pretend that you are. Where should it come from?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Yes, but I presume that that is allocated against existing priorities. I appreciate that it is for the Government to propose a budget, but it is your bill, so you must have some idea. Do you have any idea where the resource should come from?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Jamie Hepburn

Then why are you saying that you will amend the bill?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Part 2 relates to rehabilitation work, and part 4 is about education. What have local authorities been saying about the expectations on costs?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Indeed. What do the ones that are left say is the issue?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

My final question is about part 3 and data collection. You said that you recognise that more can be done in that regard but that you think that it can be achieved without legislation. You also talked about a concern about a significant burden—you used that specific term—being placed on charities, which are clearly not constituted to gather data. It is a different thing to ask courts, Police Scotland and the rest, who will gather data all the time. What leads you to conclude that it will be a significant burden? Have charities raised that as a concern when speaking with the Government?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I take that point. You said that there are a couple of other areas of the memorandum that you want to explore. In relation to part 2, on rehabilitation, you talk about the commitment to expanding the Caledonian system more widely across Scotland, and you set out some of the activity that is under way. Will you expand on that? I guess that the how and the when are the key points there. Can you set out the work that has been undertaken and say when the system is likely to be more widely available across Scotland? Ideally, it will be available across the entirety of the country—that must be the aim. Is that being worked towards, and when is that likely to happen?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

There will be seven local authorities left in which to roll out the Caledonian system. What is the impediment to its going further?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Jamie Hepburn

So, next year we will have greater clarity on what the next steps will be.