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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
It is for Parliament to determine whether there should be some form of systemic change to the formalised ways of working. Equally, it is for each committee to determine what is done under the current rules.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
That goes back to my earlier point. I think that it is important that our committees represent who has been returned here in terms of numbers per party, because that is what the people have determined. You said that, in a previous session—I have not looked in detail at what was said then—that other parties made reference to their own efforts to ensure that they are more representative of the wider population. To put it crudely, that would be the best way of achieving better and more representative numbers in Parliament, in general, and then in the membership of the committees.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
Of course it does with regard to the legislation that we introduce. I am merely reflecting on the fact that, although I am hearing that it is the volume of legislation that is the driver, the facts point in a different direction.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
I am happy to speak to that as well, if you would like me to do so. I have figures on that, too.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
I do, if you will let me find them.
The number of Scottish statutory instruments in the first year of our first parliamentary session, from 2000 to 2001, was 326. The number peaked in 2006-07, at 522. The last year for which we have figures is 2023-24, when there were 193 SSIs. Again, I therefore respectfully suggest that we are not overburdening committees with legislation in either its primary or its secondary form.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
By the rural committee—I beg your pardon.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
Well, there is that perspective as well.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
I guess that it would depend on the question. If we had introduced legislation, there would be a wider expectation that Parliament had to consider it. Once it is at committee, it is for the committee to determine.
I go back to the figures—I will not read them all out again, because I see the time, convener—
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
—but I have provided evidence about the numbers of bills and SSIs and the length of time that is now being taken for consideration, with a reduced number—certainly of SSIs—in contrast to the large number that were introduced previously, when they were dealt with much more quickly.
Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 15 May 2025
Jamie Hepburn
My first observation—the convener knows this as well as I do, because he sits on the Parliamentary Bureau—is that it is possible for a committee to ask for dispensation to do that just now. Whether it was to become routine would, again, be a matter for Parliament to consider. It would have to be weighed against what might be happening in plenary sessions and committee members’ desire to take part in those proceedings, too.
If it were to happen—again, it is not for the Government to say whether it should happen—a committee might need to consider, collectively, how it would balance the desirability or possibility of its meeting against the desire of its members to take part in other proceedings.