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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 12 June 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I appreciate that. I will avoid commenting on specific cases because of the territory that that would take us into. That point will inform our considerations—we should not be naive and pretend that it will not—but we must consider the proposition without reference to specific cases. I suppose that it is possible. I struggle to see how the process could take account of that, but there might be a means. We will see whether one can be devised.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I will quickly pick up that point, if I can. The average number of amendments per bill in session 1, when we were getting through legislation much more quickly, was 193. In this session, the number is sitting at 140.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Of course.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I know that you are not suggesting this outright, convener, but that would potentially lead to the conclusion that there should be fewer women appointed to Government. If that was the question, my answer would be a straightforward no—

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

A collective one?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That speaks to Government effectiveness.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

By its very nature, it is a different pathway. I am sorry—do you mean, by contrast to being in Government?

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Yes. By definition, it is a different pathway, because it is a different destination. Being a convener of any of Parliament’s committees is a big responsibility, which I know that the various conveners in this session of Parliament take seriously, as they should.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I first came into the Government when my party had a majority. Irrespective of that, I tried to work with colleagues across parties.

Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee [Draft]

Committee Effectiveness Inquiry

Meeting date: 15 May 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Again, I have to be careful here.