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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That is useful to understand.

Your submission has been helpful, and I thank you for sending it to us. You have also touched on this point in some of your responses thus far, chief constable. One section of your submission discusses “emerging issues”, and I want to go through a few of those that you have set out. I appreciate that you might not have an answer as to the specific costs, so you might have to come back to us on that.

You noted the

“anti-immigration protests focusing on hotels”.

I do not know whether there is a way of working out what the costs of that to Police Scotland have been.

You also mention having to police

“the proscription by the UK Government of ‘Palestine Action Group’.”

Again, I do not know whether you have a figure for the cost of that to Police Scotland.

There was also operation roll 2 for the visit of President Trump. You mention

“the significant demand placed upon policing in Scotland”,

which we would all understand would be the result of such a visit. What was the cost of that?

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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

It would be useful to have the costs broken down for each of those areas.

I think that you have answered the question. In effect, you just have to deal with those issues within the budgetary envelope. It is not as though you can forecast or plan for that. What is the operating assumption at the start of any financial year for that type of activity?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Good morning. Chief Constable Farrell, you have talked about the need for the budget to cover the increased national insurance contribution costs. Could you tell us what the cost has been to Police Scotland this financial year and what the forecast cost is for next year?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Do you have a forecast cost for the coming year?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Focusing on the figure of £25 million that you mentioned, approximately how many police officers would that pay for?

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

That is fair. I recognise that that might not be a question that could have been answered. I also understand that we do not want to stray too much into individual cases. However, if you were able to provide more information on the context, that would be useful.

I am not suggesting that you will have this information to hand, but it would also be useful and instructive to have a historical comparison. Clearly, you are referring to the basis on which the system has operated for the past five years, if not longer, but it would be useful to find out what the experience was over a longer period of time. I presume that there would have been far more prosecutions, but it would be useful to have the evidence to back that up.

Criminal Justice Committee

Prostitution (Offences and Support) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Do others have a perspective on that?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

If we could get that information, that would be really helpful.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

Thank you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 5 November 2025

Jamie Hepburn

I will focus my questions on the Police Authority’s corporate costs and corporate function. It is important that you are appropriately funded in your oversight role. Your submission makes it clear that the corporate function was allocated 0.4 per cent, or £5.5 million, of the policing budget in 2025-26. The submission said:

“When benchmarked against other similar policing oversight bodies, this reflects favourably.”

Can you evidence that? Which bodies are you comparing yourselves with? What is the equivalent amount of funding that they receive?