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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
I am unclear about Jamie Halcro Johnston’s thinking with regard to street traders being moved from one site to another, and how we can disaggregate the losses from the benefits and develop a compensation scheme that could not be taken advantage of pretty ruthlessly.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
It is perhaps a bit out of character for me to say that an amendment in Stephen Kerr’s name seems reasonable but, on first reading, I did not see anything in amendment 8 that appeared particularly harmful. However, having thought about it a little more, the rights that it sets out could, in some circumstances, be problematic. For example, the right to observe searches might cause unnecessary disputes in situations in which an individual is being disruptive or posing a threat to others around them. The minister referred to the point about reporting entry to Glasgow City Council, and I am a bit worried that that would raise expectations that the council would always have the ability to do something about that. I am not entirely clear how that would be helpful, so I do not feel that amendment 8 should be supported.
For the reasons that the minister set out, I have problems with amendment 9 because of the risk of the opportunity that could be taken to destroy evidence.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
You do not, in principle, see problems arising from divergence between the two jurisdictions.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
It is inevitable that the closest comparisons that we make on a regulatory issue such as this are with other UK nations, but should we also be looking at the wider, global picture? If we raise standards to a regulatory level that we are happy with here, there will be people who get encouraged to go on holiday and get procedures done unsafely somewhere else. Is there anything that we can or should do under the bill that would address the issues of information, awareness or promoting access to services in other jurisdictions and other countries? Is there anything that we can do in that regard to address safety?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
I will move on to questions regarding fairness and equality. We have heard, both at our previous meeting and in some of the written evidence, a range of views about equalities impacts as a result of the bill. There are those who make the argument that many of the available services and procedures are being provided by a workforce that is predominantly made up of women who are working independently. Many working-class communities see this area of work as something that is rooted in their community.
On the other side, there is a concern that the equalities impacts will extend to reduced availability and increased cost for these procedures, and that many marginalised groups, or groups affected by equalities issues, will be more at risk if safety standards are not high. Those groups may be targeted more by the industry and may be more likely to access these services.
Can you give us an overview of your attitude to the equalities impacts? It may be that they cut in both directions.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
So, from a providers’ point of view, you would say that the bill creates more of a level playing field.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
On the balance between patient safety, and accessibility or affordability, I get the sense that the whole panel is saying that patient safety must be the priority. Is there any merit in the counter-argument that, if we reduce the accessibility of procedures for which there is commercial demand or we increase the cost by regulation, that will drive some people to access the same procedures completely outside the scope of regulation in a much more unsafe setting where they are not at all professionally delivered? Is there any argument that the impact could be negative in that way?
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
I am getting a fairly clear sense—
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
I appreciate that there are different perspectives. From a policy perspective, I am not sure if I am more confused or less confused, but thank you for the answers.
Health, Social Care and Sport Committee
Meeting date: 9 December 2025
Patrick Harvie
I think that other members will come on to enforcement and compliance later.