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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 March 2026
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

We thank Amber Roberts and regret that there seems to be nothing more of a practical nature that we can do.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

That seems a sensible proposition. Are we content with that?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

PE1961, which seeks to make it a specific offence to assault, threaten or abuse a private hire or taxi driver while at work, has been lodged by Edward Grice on behalf of the Scottish Private Hire Association. The petition calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to expand the Protection of Workers (Retail and Age-restricted Goods and Services) (Scotland) Act 2021 to include private hire and taxi drivers by creating a specific criminal offence of assaulting, threatening or abusing private hire or taxi drivers while they are engaged in private hire or taxi work and by considering such offences as aggravated when the offence is committed while the driver is enforcing a licensing or operational condition. The SPHA highlights the 2021 act and the creation of a new offence for situations whereby a retail worker is assaulted, threatened or abused while engaged in their work. The SPHA believes that a similar offence is required to protect private hire and taxi drivers while they are at work.

11:45  

In its response to the petition, the Scottish Government notes that there are a range of common-law and statutory offences to protect everyone, including private hire and taxi drivers, from abuse and violence. Those include the statutory offence of threatening or abusive behaviour, as well as common-law offences of assault and breach of the peace. Do colleagues have any comments or suggestions?

I was struck by the Scottish Government pointing the finger at Daniel Johnson in relation to the development of the 2021 act. I am not quite sure what they thought Mr Johnson’s remedy might be.

Do colleagues have any suggestions as to how we might proceed?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 7 December 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am happy to write to the organisations that you have suggested, but we would do that instead of taking evidence from the petitioner, at this stage. As you suggested, we would write to the SPSO and the Scottish Government.

Are there any other suggestions, or are members content for us to proceed in that way?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I have resolved not to reach for any other metaphors. I take the point, and we can proceed on the basis that we have described with that understanding.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

In which case, I thank you both very much. Your evidence has been very helpful to our consideration of this distressing petition. Thank you for being present remotely and in person today.

I will suspend the meeting shortly, once members have agreed that we are content to consider the evidence at a subsequent meeting.

Members indicated agreement.

10:58 Meeting suspended.  

11:03 On resuming—  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Are colleagues content to close the petition, as suggested by Alexander Stewart?

Members indicated agreement.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

During your time on the task force, what were the key concerns that were raised regarding the experience of people who use drugs and their current interactions with the justice system?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

Mr Strang, you referred to dozens of recommendations in the report. I am sorry that we are not here to do full justice to the report today. The work of the committee has been very much focused on the issues raised in the petition, despite Mr Sweeney’s heroic endeavours to draw out slightly wider evidence, which I am sure is also very useful to the committee. Is there anything that we have not touched on that either you or Carole Hunter would like to add?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 23 November 2022

Jackson Carlaw

I am happy for us to take that forward.

We are content to keep the petition open and proceed on the basis that has been set out. I thank the petitioner for the time that they took in speaking to us, as well as last week’s witnesses, who helped to inform our discussion.