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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 February 2026
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

I see that Jackie Baillie, who is not formally here to advise us on the petition, would like to come in. I have been generous today in bringing in parliamentary colleagues, so it would be churlish of me not to offer you that opportunity.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Yes, of course.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Welcome to our second session on PE1992. We are joined by representatives from Transport Scotland. I am delighted to see that we have Lawrence Shackman, Robert Galbraith and Morag Mackay. They have been following our proceedings avidly this morning. I noticed them faithfully sitting through all our deliberations on other petitions as well as the one that is before the committee now.

Do you want to make an opening statement or are you content to move straight to questions?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you for that. It might play to the discussion that we want to have about a national memorial and the possible misunderstanding between all parties about where that might be sited or the desirability of it, but we can come back to that.

Colleagues are very interested in this subject. I want to start where I finished in the earlier session, if I can be the daft laddie in relation to the petition. Did Transport Scotland ever advise the Scottish Government minister that the A9 could be completed by 2025? If not, did it warn the minister who gave that assurance to the public some years ago, particularly to all those who use the road regularly, that Transport Scotland could not meet such a target?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

This is not a happy thought, but it is exactly 10 years since the committee first considered the issue of mesh in the petition that Elaine Holmes and Olive McIlroy brought forward. It would be ungenerous indeed not to acknowledge that, five cabinet secretaries later, we have seen progress in relation to the issue. Things have happened; the moratorium on transvaginal mesh continues to apply and we have secured the Transvaginal Mesh Removal (Cost Reimbursement) (Scotland) Act 2022, which provides for women to have the mesh removed by Dr Veronikis in Missouri. However, issues remain, and there are questions that we want to put to the Scottish Government.

A number of suggestions have been made. I, too, am confused about the Shouldice thing. I kind of understood the Scottish Government’s concern that, for the people who might undergo that surgery, a commitment involving considerable weight loss would be required, which might ultimately be selective, but very open offers were made in that respect by the medical staff. Indeed, Dr Spencer Netto, in his evidence to the committee, specifically said that the hospital would be willing to offer training and to have discussions with the Scottish Government on the processes and procedures involved. I thought that the Government was willing to consider that, but I have not heard anything further about where that might play into the outcome. Therefore, I would very much like to understand what further reflections the Government has had on the Shouldice model and the offer to support NHS Scotland in that respect.

Do colleagues have other suggestions?

12:30  

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

That was specific but, more generally, are there pressures on the post-mortem service in Scotland?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Thank you very much. I will ask an introductory question of both witnesses, and then invite colleagues to come in.

We may come back to touch on the memorial that you referred to at the end of what you said, but how has the delay that has taken place impacted personally on you, and what is your view of the interaction that Transport Scotland has had with communities and the way that that has evolved during the process?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

New Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Okay—we will keep the petition open on that basis.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Will Transport Scotland reflect on that, given the petitioner’s evidence this morning, and give us a flavour of what it thinks might be possible for us to consider further at another date? I would be very grateful for that.

Are there any other questions from colleagues?

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 14 June 2023

Jackson Carlaw

Rest assured.