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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Our last on-going petition is PE2008, which was lodged by Kirsty Solman. It calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to provide funding to create a separate accident and emergency for children and young people presenting with mental health issues.
Following the previous consideration of the petition, the committee put points raised by the petitioner to the Scottish Government. The submission from the Scottish Government outlines a number of workstreams including work with Police Scotland and the Scottish Ambulance Service to improve unscheduled care pathways.
The minister’s response notes that attendance at a children’s hospital instead of general A and E may be advised where that is available and appropriate. In response to the petitioner’s concerns about the efficacy of phone assessments, it states that a patient-centred approach is adopted when considering the suitability of digital technology and that that is included in the national guidance for clinicians. The minister’s response recognises that the child and adolescent mental health services target of all boards achieving a 90 per cent standard by March 2023 was not achieved and points to on-going work with health boards to develop CAMHS out-of-hours service provision.
The petitioner has responded to the minister raising questions about the impact of significant staff cuts on the planned work with Police Scotland and the Scottish Ambulance Service. She has asked how many psychiatric teams there are, as her experience involved waiting for several hours because the team was not based in the hospital. The petitioner shares that many families have reached out to her to say that their child could not get help through the mental health hubs because they were under 12. She asks for clarity on what services are available for children under the age of 12.
Do members have any comments or suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you very much. We will keep the petition open, and we will investigate further and return to it when we have those responses from the minister.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
I would like to ask the Scottish Government whether it thinks that the current law of trespass in Scotland is worth the paper that it is written on. [Laughter.] I say that in all seriousness, because I was not quite sure what somebody’s remedy is under it. We will keep that petition open, and I can say to our petitioner that the briefing seems to recognise some of the issues raised.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
PE2062, on introducing a national screening programme for prostate cancer, has been lodged by Bill Alexander. It clearly has a topical flair to it, because it calls on the Scottish Parliament to urge the Scottish Government to introduce a national screening programme for prostate cancer. The SPICe briefing states that there is no one test used to diagnose prostate cancer. The most common tests include a prostate-specific antigen blood test, a physical examination of the prostate and a biopsy. The briefing points out that PSA blood tests can sometimes miss cancer in some patients and can just as easily falsely diagnose others. A heightened PSA is not the same thing as prostate cancer. However, advancements in magnetic resonance imaging technology and biopsy techniques could facilitate the development of a national screening programme.
The Scottish Government response notes that the United Kingdom National Screening Committee considered whether to recommend population screening in November 2020 and, frankly, concluded that it could not happen based on the available evidence. However, the screening committee will review that recommendation in the next 12 months. The response highlights a large prostate screening study called TRANSFORM—I think that that is a large study rather than a study of large prostates; I assume that it is that way round—which will look at potential innovative screening methods with hundreds of thousands of men due to be recruited for the study. I comment on all of this as somebody who has had a heightened PSA test, an MRI and biopsy myself for the matters at hand. Do members have any comments or suggestions for action?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
What does that mean?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Jackson Carlaw
That takes us to the end of our public business this morning. I look forward to welcoming those who follow our proceedings back at our next meeting. Thank you.
12:02 Meeting continued in private until 12:04.Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 January 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Good morning and welcome to the first meeting in 2024 of the Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee. Because of the prevailing weather alerts, several of our colleagues are joining us online, as are all our witnesses this morning. I imagine that we will have a particularly exciting time as we try to negotiate the technology with the various participants.
The first item on our agenda is a declaration of interests. Unfortunately, my colleague Maurice Golden is not able to attend today, so his substitute, Oliver Mundell, is joining us for the first time. Although Mr Mundell is no stranger to the work of the committee, this is the first time that he is attending as a substitute, so I invite him to declare any relevant interests.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 January 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Item 2 is to decide whether to take items 6 and 7 in private. Is Mr Torrance, who is online, content with that?
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 January 2024
Jackson Carlaw
I think that you look very fetching and smart, Mr Barn. I do not think that you need to be concerned at all.
Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee
Meeting date: 24 January 2024
Jackson Carlaw
Thank you, Mr Ewing. I think that that is appropriate. That clarification will now appear in the Official Report of the meeting.
We can now enjoy talking with Mr Barn. I will start with a more general question. Is that product placement that you have on your mantelpiece there, Mr Barn? I am looking at the Costa mug. I assume that no sponsorship fee is being paid.