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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

I call Colin Smyth, followed by Maggie Chapman.

09:45  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

I have a couple of quick questions. With the move to becoming an importing business, will any assessment be made of where refined product comes from and how it is refined? We can consider international standards. The UK has high standards when it comes to health and safety in the workplace and the products that we produce. How can we be assured that what comes in meets those standards? Has any assessment been made of whether it will?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

Good morning, and welcome to the 32nd meeting in 2023 of the Economy and Fair Work Committee.

Murdo Fraser MSP is joining us remotely. We are also joined by Stephen Kerr MSP, and I also expect Jackie Dunbar MSP to come to this morning’s meeting. Although they are not committee members, they are attending the evidence-taking session on Grangemouth, and I welcome them to the committee.

Our first item of business is to decide whether to take item 3 in private. Are members content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

Was the announcement unplanned as far as the workers were concerned? Were they aware that it was likely to be coming along, or was it a surprise for them?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

Please be brief, Mr Kerr, as we are expecting the cabinet secretary in about five minutes.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

Thank you, cabinet secretary.

I do not want to disappoint the cabinet secretary, but this morning it sounded like the decision had been taken to close the refinery. You described it as a potential to move, but it sounded like there was a clear intention to move. The dispute this morning just seemed to be about the date—whether it would be spring 2025 or some future date. I do not know whether other committee members agree, but the evidence that we heard earlier this morning did not make it sound like the decision was up for much discussion. Has the cabinet secretary had a chance to listen to the evidence this morning? Does that reflect the discussions that he is having?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

That was a recommendation of the committee.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

A UK Government minister will attend on 17 January. That is the date that we have managed to confirm.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

I will add to Mr Fraser’s question about the gap. Cabinet secretary, you talked about jobs in Aberdeen. I know that Ineos has a longer sight line regarding what it wants to do on the site, but that is not going to happen by 2025. For people who live in the central belt and work at Grangemouth, will there be opportunities in the central belt and not just in the north-east?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

On timescales, other members asked what has to be done if the life of the refinery is to be extended, and you said that the Scottish Government is in discussions with business. We expect the just transition plan to be produced in the spring. Will it include an assessment of how long the refinery could be open for, and will it be later than spring 2025? Do you have an alternative idea of how long it should stay open? A just transition needs to be managed, and a date of spring 2025 does not feel particularly managed for the local community.