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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

But it would offer benefits, would it not, if you closed down the refinery and moved to an importing business?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

Okay. There might be further questions on green freeports later.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

We are all here sitting on the committee, having done an inquiry a few months ago, and it has come out during a committee meeting that 400 people are about to lose their jobs at the site—that is quite a significant number of jobs—at a pace that I think the committee did not expect. We recognise that there is a shift away from refining and from use of oil and gas, but not at the speed that this happening by 2025 would suggest.

We will pick up with the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy questions about what a just transition means. From the outside, I have to say that, at this point in time, it does not look like there will be a just transition for Grangemouth.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

That brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank Colin Pritchard and Iain Hardie for attending. I will briefly suspend the meeting for a changeover of witnesses.

10:31 Meeting suspended.  

10:38 On resuming—  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

I welcome our second panel to discuss Grangemouth. Neil Gray, who is the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Fair Work and Energy, is joined by Scottish Government officials. Kenneth MacDermid is head of critical energy infrastructure and commercial projects in the energy industries division, and Sue Townend is interim deputy director of the energy industries division.

I invite the cabinet secretary to make a brief opening statement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

To be honest, we did not have any pushback from Ineos this morning that it is not 400 jobs that we are talking about.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

How often does the future industry board meet, and how often does the Government meet it?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

The announcement said that the closure would be in spring 2025.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

So you are saying that the timescale is not clear—that is, that the work is starting, but the timescale for the closure is not clear. That leaves the people working there in quite a suspended situation, because they do not know.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Petroineos Grangemouth

Meeting date: 13 December 2023

Claire Baker

I will bring in Evelyn Tweed, and then I will come back to the issue of green freeports with Colin Beattie.