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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 November 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Do you find that there are different abilities or challenges that people face within a group of disabled people? Do you find that there are groups of people that it is harder to make progress with and that we need to focus more on them?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Philip Ritchie is here from City of Edinburgh Council, representing the Edinburgh local employability partnership. I put the same question to you, Philip. Where do you think there has been progress? Are we on target to meet the Government’s commitment to close the disability employment gap?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Alasdair Scott is here from Scottish Borders Council. To build on the questions we have had so far, some of the research that has been done by the Fraser of Allander Institute says that, although the Government is making progress on closing the gap, progress is slower for people with neurodivergent conditions and people with learning disabilities and there are more difficulties in getting them into work. Does the Scottish Borders strategy focus on that area or does it take a broader approach to the issue?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

I now come to Dave McCallum. The original question was about the barriers that are faced by disabled people in accessing and retaining mainstream employment. Can you reflect on that? Do you feel that Government policy and measures are on the right path? Are the policy interventions that the Government is bringing in the right ones and are there enough?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Before I bring in Maggie Chapman, I want to ask about data, which Colin Beattie has referred to. It feels as if, in Scotland, we are sometimes good at starting initiatives but we are not really sure which ones are working so we do not know where to focus our resources or where to make the best progress, especially when we are trying to tackle something as difficult as the disability employment gap. As organisations, how do you define and measure what is successful? The Scottish Government recently established the employability shared measurement framework. Do you feed information into that framework?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Alasdair, you might want to comment on that as well. Some of the figures that have been published on retention, for the previous fair work scheme—I cannot remember what it was called—and for “No one left behind”, show that people get into employment but that four weeks, eight weeks or a year later, the number starts to tail off.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

There is fair start Scotland, but some of the data is on no one left behind, although issues have been raised about the difficulty with transparency around no one left behind funding. Is your local authority also monitoring and working out what works and then feeding into the shared framework measurement?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Could I ask the panellists to be brief in any replies? I am keen to bring everybody in and we are getting a bit short of time.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

David, is that similar to your view of how they are operating?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 1 May 2024

Claire Baker

Is some of the difference between local authorities to do with their understanding of definitions or a lack of clarity on what they are trying to deliver?