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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 16 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Employment and Skills for Recovery

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Claire Baker

I go back to Chris Brodie. I recently had a conversation with the Open University, which said that uptake of their courses had increased—it said that it had been quite encouraged by individuals looking to retrain and reskill. We are talking about a reluctance to invest, or a lack of recognition of the importance of investing, among businesses. I asked whether the infrastructure around this area is enough to support businesses, but is there also a cultural issue in Scotland around devaluing adult and lifelong learning? Have we lost that? From memory, that was a driving force when the Scottish Parliament was first established, but that seems to have slipped over the lifetime of the Parliament.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Employment and Skills for Recovery

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Claire Baker

Our second item of business is an evidence session on employment and skills for recovery. I thank all the witnesses for joining us. I welcome Chris Brodie, director of regional skills planning and sector development, and Lisa Pattoni, service development manager, both from Skills Development Scotland; Nora Senior, chair of the Enterprise and Skills Strategic Board; and Mairi Spowage, director of the Fraser of Allander Institute.

Today’s evidence session will enable the committee to consider issues to do with business recovery, with a focus on employment and skills. The evidence will inform the committee’s input to the Scottish Government’s budget for 2022-23.

I will start the questioning. The paper from Skills Development Scotland says that

“job-related training in Scotland has steadily declined over the last 15 years”.

“Scotland’s Future Skills Action Plan” also makes that comment. I ask the witnesses from Skills Development Scotland to talk about the reasons why that has happened and where the responsibility for that decline lies.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Employment and Skills for Recovery

Meeting date: 8 September 2021

Claire Baker

I invite Alexander Burnett to direct his question to Lisa Pattoni, who is also here from Skills Development Scotland. If Chris comes back, we can direct it at him, as well.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

Before I call Gordon MacDonald, I note that four members still want to ask questions. I know that the conversation has been wide ranging, but I would appreciate it if people could keep their questions and answers concise.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

Thank you for those very helpful responses, which have touched on many of the issues that the committee will want to ask about.

What will be the likely impact of the furlough scheme coming to an end in September? Some issues such as labour shortages are getting a very high profile at the moment, and some have argued that ending furlough might ease the situation. What are the difficulties in that respect? Are we at the stage where we can end furlough and businesses are able to redeploy people? Again, that question is for Mr Singh and Mr McCulloch.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

Thank you, Mr Singh. Are we able to hear from Barry McCulloch from the Federation of Small Businesses Scotland?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

Agenda item 3 is consideration of a Scottish Government consent notification for a UK statutory instrument. The committee is invited to consider the consent notification for the Public Procurement (Agreement on Government Procurement) (Amendment) (No 2) Regulations 2021. The Scottish Government gave consent during the campaign recess. At the end of the previous session, it was agreed that, during the campaign recess, the Scottish Government would give its consent to UK statutory instruments and then notify the Parliament at the start of session 6. The Parliament’s consent is not sought for such SIs, but it still has the opportunity to hold the Scottish Government to account for its decision to consent.

The purpose of the instrument is to make technical changes to domestic UK and Scottish procurement legislation to ensure that it reflects the UK’s accession to the World Trade Organization Government procurement agreement in its own right.

Are members content to note the consent notification?

Members indicated agreement.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

We will now move into private session for the remaining agenda items.

11:57 Meeting continued in private until 12:17.  

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

Yes. We can hear you now.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Economic Recovery

Meeting date: 1 September 2021

Claire Baker

I am keen to move on to the next questions, but I understand that Carolyn Currie and Rose Marley would like to comment on this issue. I ask them to do so briefly.