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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Good morning, and welcome to the 28th meeting in 2022 of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee. We have received apologies from Brian Whittle MSP, and from our convener, Siobhan Brown, who has been unexpectedly detained but might be able to join us in the course of the meeting.

The first agenda item is to decide whether to take in private item 4, which is consideration of our approach to our inquiry into long Covid. Do members agree to take item 4 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Would the number be in the hundreds or fewer than that?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you—that is really interesting.

I move on to you, Rachel Helliwell. As I did with the others, I ask you to reflect on your experience of the process.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

We move on to item 2. The committee will hear from two panels of witnesses on Covid-19 surveillance.

The first panel will give evidence on waste water surveillance. I welcome to the meeting: Dr Rachel Helliwell, the director of the Centre of Expertise for Waters—CREW—and the Hydro Nation International Centre; George Ponton, head of research and innovation at Scottish Water; and Peter Singleton, research, innovation and evidence manager at the Scottish Environment Protection Agency. They all join us remotely.

I thank the witnesses for giving us their time and for their written submissions. We will allow an hour or so for the evidence session. I will start with some questions, then ask my colleagues to come in. If any of the witnesses would like to respond to a question that is not directed specifically to them, they should put an R in the chat box, then we will be able to bring them in. I am keen that everybody gets as much of an opportunity to speak as possible.

I ask each of the witnesses in turn, starting with Mr Ponton from Scottish Water, to tell us a little bit about their experience with waste water testing, how it worked in practice, what the challenges were and what they have learned from it for the future.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that. Do you have any reflections on the value that your work has had in driving Government policy?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Okay. Thank you very much.

I will ask Peter Singleton a similar question to the original question that I put to Mr Ponton. What was your experience of the programme? What lessons have been learned from it for the future?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you. Before I bring in the others, I have a couple of follow-up questions based on what you said.

How many test points were there across the country? What were the resourcing implications for Scottish Water in undertaking that work?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you for that.

As a follow-up, I will go back to funding. Is there funding in place to maintain the capacity that has been built up? Mr Gray suggested that there is not.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

What needs to happen?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee [Draft]

Covid-19 Surveillance

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Murdo Fraser

Thank you all. I appreciate your taking the time to come and speak to us. If you have any follow-up evidence to submit, please feel free to do so in writing.

There has been a lot of talk of sewage for so early in the day. I know that John Mason was delighted with that but, for the rest of us, it has been a bit of a challenge—but thank you very much.

We will have a brief suspension to allow a changeover of witnesses.

10:15 Meeting suspended.  

10:20 On resuming—