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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
Okay. If the principle is that it is a continuing duty, why would you wait until the end of the five-year carbon budget period to introduce corrective action, in the way in which you would with a section 36 report?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
You could.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
Good morning, and thank you, convener. The only matter that I wish to draw to colleagues’ attention is that I hold an honorary fellowship from the Chartered Institution of Highways and Transportation.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
I want to come on to the issue of five-year carbon budgeting, but before I do so, it would be helpful to get some clarification on the climate change plan. Is my understanding correct that the climate change plan that will be published by the Government will be the final climate change plan and that there will be no consultation or engagement? Or, after you have received advice from the CCC, will there be an external-to-Government engagement programme in order to develop a draft climate change plan that will be shared publicly?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
I will turn to the written evidence that was provided by Catherine Higham and Alina Averchenkova in response to the question about carbon budgeting. In particular, you set out the advantages of a five-year carbon budgeting process, which can assist the short-term and long-term direction of travel in tackling climate change, and how such a process provides greater flexibility. You talk about the need for regular reporting to give transparency on, and accountability for, exactly what progress has been made in the five-year period. What would an annual or regular reporting mechanism look like in the course of a five-year carbon budgeting process? Although it is in Catherine’s and Alina’s written evidence, I am happy to hear from the other witnesses, too.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
Picking up on your suggestion, given your international experience of instances in which carbon budgeting has been used—whether in other parts of the UK or in other countries beyond it—what processes have been used that have been effective in ensuring that there is on-going, regular reporting of progress that offers the level of transparency that you are looking for while also balancing that against avoiding “creating a culture of failure”—a term you used in your evidence—and avoiding creating undue concern about what progress is being made in a five-year carbon budgeting period?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
That is helpful, because my impression was that the published climate change plan would be a final document.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
However, there will be an external consultation exercise on a draft climate change plan, which the committee will be able to engage with.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
The main point that I want to come to is on five-year carbon budgeting. The committee has had written and oral evidence about the pros and cons of moving to five-year carbon budgets. One of the concerns around the five-year carbon budget process is the risk that we could go through a five-year period before we come to a point where we realise that we are not making sufficient progress and have failed to achieve what we intended to in that five-year period, because we have moved away from annual targets.
Some other jurisdictions have put in place a mechanism that allows on-going scrutiny and accountability around progress that has been made during the five-year period of the carbon budget. What are the Scottish Government’s plans to put in place, with the carbon budgets, a process that allows us to have a clear line of sight on the progress that has been made in individual policy areas? Once the carbon budget is in place, how do you intend to facilitate that on an on-going basis?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 17 September 2024
Michael Matheson
That is helpful. Given that carbon budgeting will require greater buy-in from individual portfolios and greater budget allocations in order to meet their sectoral responsibility, do you envisage a process in the annual reporting that will allow us to see the progress that has been made in individual portfolios against the target that they should be looking to achieve?