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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Session 6: 13 May 2021 to 8 April 2026
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Cabinet secretary, before I bring in Douglas Lumsden, I note that both you and Monica Lennon mentioned that a natural environment bill is to be introduced. In the consultation on that, an independent monitoring body was suggested. Do you envisage that that body would be Environmental Standards Scotland?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Agenda item 2 is an evidence-taking session on environmental governance. The committee has previously taken evidence on this matter in relation to the Scottish Government’s environmental governance arrangements report, which was published back in June 2023. The Scottish Government has now consulted on those arrangements, and it submitted a statement to Parliament on 19 November, outlining the consultation process, summarising the responses and presenting ministers’ recommendations. In our evidence session today, we will explore environmental governance further in light of that statement.

I am pleased to welcome to the meeting Gillian Martin, Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, and, from the Scottish Government, Tim Ellis, deputy director of future environment, and Charles Stewart Roper, head of environment strategy and governance unit. We will move straight to questions from the committee, and I will get us started.

The Government’s statement on environmental governance in November recognises that there are issues with the operation of such governance at present, particularly when it comes to access to justice. However, it appears from the outcome of the review process that little has been given in the way of options to address what seems to be a gap with regard to environmental governance and access to justice. Can you explain to the committee why, now that the issue has been identified, there appears to have been a lack of action in addressing it?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Environmental Governance

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

Okay. Douglas Lumsden is next.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 December 2024

Michael Matheson

I call Douglas Lumsden.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

So, clearly, implementation is a key part of the effectiveness of any land management plan process, and of its credibility and whether there is value in it.

On that point, do you think that, if a piece of land changes hands after a land management plan has been put in place, the new owner should inherit the original plan’s intentions?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

We touched on this issue to some degree in earlier answers, but I would like to dig a wee bit deeper. I would like to get your view on the provisions around lotting in the bill. Do you think that they are right and are workable, and what do you think their potential impact would be in helping to diversify land ownership in the future?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

My second question is whether any of you, from your different perspectives, can see merit in a transfer test as opposed to a public interest test.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

What sort of time frame would be more suitable?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

What about you, Peter Peacock?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Michael Matheson

So, clearly, implementation is a key part of the effectiveness of any land management plan process, and of its credibility and whether there is value in it.

On that point, do you think that, if a piece of land changes hands after a land management plan has been put in place, the new owner should inherit the original plan’s intentions?