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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 29 April 2025
Michael Matheson
Liam, it sounds as though the German approach to electrification is paying off, if the cost of electrification in Scotland is reducing because of a rolling programme. Can you remind me what the cost is per kilometre for electrifying a line? If I recall correctly, it used to be around £1 million. Is it still around that price?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Michael Matheson
Good morning. I would like to follow that line of questioning. The overall pot of money has not decreased; the way in which it is being utilised has changed. So, does the fact that more of the Scottish Government’s bus funding is being used for concessionary travel, which means that there is less money available for the network support grant, mean that the expansion of concessionary travel has resulted in greater transport inequality?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Michael Matheson
Not specifically on hydrogen. Parts of the network will be challenging to electrify, and would not make sense economically in terms of distance. There is also an issue in that it would probably create greater risk in relation to weather resilience on some of those routes. For example, if you electrify the line going up to Inverness, it is likely that adverse weather will impact overhead lines and so on, but I know that part of the plan is to electrify it.
I recognise that hydrogen technology is not there yet. At best, hydrogen might get deployed in a local commuter train capacity, but certainly not in intercity capacity, given the energy demands that there would be. Battery technology, again, will probably be used in the commuter space at best, rather than in the intercity space. I suspect that we will end up falling back on some sort of diesel hybrid. How can we deploy that technology in a way that helps to reduce its carbon output? I am conscious that renewable-type diesels could be deployed that might be a mechanism that would allow you to use diesel while significantly reducing your carbon footprint. Has there been discussion about that in the industry? Could you see that developing in other parts of the industry outwith Scotland?
11:45Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Michael Matheson
I was struck by the comment that Greig MacKay made about the fact that fare prices do not rank highly when bus users are surveyed about the priorities that should be taken forward to make bus travel more attractive.
There is a limited pot of money, so if you were to prioritise funding to improve bus services and make them more attractive, would you invest in a greater expansion of concessionary travel, introduce a flat rate or capped fare or would you invest in bus prioritisation measures?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 22 April 2025
Michael Matheson
If the overall budget has not changed, but the way in which it has been apportioned has, is it fair to say that the introduction of expanding concessionary travel did not sufficiently take into account the consequences in terms of the potential impact that it would have on increasing levels of transport inequality, particularly in rural Scotland?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Michael Matheson
My question picks up on the £1.1 billion of capital investment in 2024-25. What is the gap between your level of capital investment this year against your assessed level of capital investment for 2024-25?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Michael Matheson
I understand that, and I appreciate the challenge. However, it would be reasonable to expect that, over the course of the coming years, your organisation will have a clear understanding of the timeframe for ending the issue.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Michael Matheson
So, the increases in future years could be even greater than would be anticipated, if you were to defer investment decisions.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Michael Matheson
All that I am trying to understand is the gap between the demand for capital expenditure and what you are spending. You have said in answer that it is £500 million over the six-year regulatory period. Is that correct?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 1 April 2025
Michael Matheson
It has, sort of.