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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
Thank you. We will now move into private session.
11:55 Meeting continued in private until 12:10.Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
Does the committee agree that we should write to the Scottish Government on the matter?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
I suspect that any next steps will depend on what we get in response to our letter. It would then be for the committee to decide on what to do, such as whether it wants to call the Cabinet Secretary for Transport before the committee or to hold a wider evidence session.
In the meantime, we will write to the Scottish Government and ask for ministers to respond.
Does the committee agree that it does not wish to make any recommendations in relation to the instrument?
Members indicated agreement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
Item 3 is consideration of two draft statutory instruments. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee raised points in relation to both instruments. In relation to the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Amendment Regulations 2025, it has reported a defective drafting issue under reporting ground (i) and seven issues under the general reporting ground.
In relation to the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland (Designation of Scheme Administrator) Order 2025, the DPLR Committee has reported one issue of defective drafting under reporting ground (i), one issue where the meaning should be clearer under reporting ground (h) and two issues under the general reporting ground.
The Scottish Government has committed to corrective action on most of those points. Further detail is set out in the clerk’s note on the instruments and, of course, in the DPLR Committee’s report.
I welcome back to the committee Gillian Martin, Acting Cabinet Secretary for Net Zero and Energy, and her supporting officials for this item: Giles Hendry, policy officer, deposit return scheme; Ailsa Heine, solicitor; and Haydn Thomas, producer responsibility unit head.
The instruments are laid under the affirmative procedure, which means that they cannot come into force unless the Parliament approves them. Following this evidence session, the committee will be invited to consider two motions recommending that the instruments be approved. I remind everyone that Scottish Government officials can speak under this item but not in the debate that follows under the next item.
I invite the acting cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
Thank you, cabinet secretary. We move to questions, and I will start us off. What substantive changes have been made to the Deposit and Return Scheme for Scotland Amendment Regulations 2025 in order to align with the scheme in England and Northern Ireland?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
Those are quite significant changes. What impact will they have on the outcomes that will be achieved compared with what was proposed under the Scottish DRS, particularly in relation to the environment, carbon emissions, businesses and consumers?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
The changes have quite a substantial impact on the overall benefit of the original deposit return scheme, given the exclusion of glass from the new scheme.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
I call Douglas Lumsden.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
I have this image in my head of folk leaving the pub at the end of a night with a bag full of empty cans and heading to the reverse vending machine.
On that note, I will pass over to Mark Ruskell.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 27 May 2025
Michael Matheson
That is helpful. On the concurrent nature of the powers, what is the intended mechanism to be used if there is a conflict of position between the Scottish and UK Governments in exercising what is an executive function under reserved legislation?