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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
If it is not?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
That is very helpful—thanks very much. I must confess that I am a bit conflicted about the idea of investing in HEFA, given that the UK Government’s SAF mandate means that, by 2030, HEFA should decrease to 71 per cent of our SAF production and that, by 2040, it should decrease to 35 per cent. That says to me that the future will be power to liquid, so why should we bother spending hundreds of millions of pounds on investing in a SAF refinery facility? You have mentioned the timeframes. To be perfectly frank, I wonder whether Scottish Enterprise is wasting everybody’s time in looking at some of this, because I cannot see how it will make any business sense whatsoever, given the UK Government’s SAF mandate. Maybe Scottish Enterprise should reflect on that, because it might just be wasting everybody’s time.
I will turn to another issue, which is the funding that the UK Government has made available so far through its advanced fuels fund to support SAF project development. From looking in the paperwork that the committee has received, and joining the dots, I think that 19 projects have been awarded funding. Only one of those is in Scotland, in Orkney. Why has only one project in Scotland been allocated AFF?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
Is it fair to say that there is no evidence that a higher offence provided for in a bill would be a deterrent? It might be, but there is no evidence to demonstrate that.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
It is just your gut instinct.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
Good morning. I want to pick up on the theme that the convener identified around the existing provisions in section 40 of the 2014 act. A couple of you—Mark Roberts in particular—mentioned the potential deterrent effect of the legislation, and other panellists agreed. What evidence is there that, given the sanctions that are attached to them, the provisions in section 40 are working as a deterrent just now and that, if we ramp up those provisions in the bill, there will be an even bigger impact?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
I am just trying to establish whether the points that panellists have made can be substantiated.
I want to stick with the theme of the existing regulatory environment and Professor Gemmell’s suggestions about whether it is operating or being utilised effectively. Clive Mitchell, in the evidence from NatureScot, you stated that the Environmental Liability (Scotland) Regulations 2009 provide an existing route to require remediation for environmental damage. You said:
“The threshold for when the Regulations apply is very high and so the Regulations have been rarely used”.
Can you expand on that? Is there a need for us to look at the fundamentals of the existing regulatory framework before we add anything new to it, in order to identify how it could be improved?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 November 2025
Michael Matheson
Do any of the other witnesses want to come in?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Michael Matheson
That is helpful.
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Michael Matheson
Doug McKiernan, can you tell us, from your expertise and knowledge, what percentage of the SAF that is used by the aviation industry will come from the power-to-liquids sector by, say, 2040?
Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee
Meeting date: 28 October 2025
Michael Matheson
I want to pick up on what type of SAF you think will be able to meet the aviation sector’s demands. Doug McKiernan, from your earlier comments, I got the impression that you feel that the only one of the three generations of SAF that is likely to meet the aviation industry’s demands is power to liquids. Is that the case? I am also interested in hearing Ralph Lavery’s views on that. Is that the only scalable option that can meet the demands of the aviation industry in the next 10, 20 or 30 years?