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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 23 June 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

Before he does, why is it not necessary to put the test in this bill, but it was necessary in other legislation?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

Let us take a step back, please, because I do not think that that was a helpful response.

Can you explain why the bill should be treated differently from other pieces of legislation in which we have specified the public interest test, if the intention is for the transfer provisions in the bill—the transfer test—to be a public interest test? What prohibits us from doing that?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

If, however, we wanted to introduce additional measures alongside that, they could be put on a statutory footing in the bill.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

I think that we have got the point.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

The bill will establish a land and communities commissioner. Why not just vest the powers that are intended for the new commissioner in the Land Commission’s existing commissioners?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

The recommendation is not to fetter the new commissioner’s powers but to require them to consult the other commissioners on recommendations and on investigations that they undertake.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

The policy memorandum suggests that the cost of a land management plan is likely to be around £20,000, although the committee has had some evidence to suggest that it could be as high as £70,000. Can you give us an insight into how you arrived at the figure of £20,000 for a land management plan and your thinking about the potential for land management plans to be significantly more expensive than what has been set out in the policy document?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

That is helpful. To help me to understand that further, is the priority to get greater diversity of ownership on large-scale landholdings, or is it about helping to support diversification for communities that may have an interest in areas of land that they are unable to access at present?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

I will pick up on the theme of the diversification of land ownership. It has been a long-standing policy intention to see greater diversification of land ownership in Scotland. Kevin Stewart set out clearly how land continues to be concentrated in the hands of very few owners. From my perspective, it would be helpful to understand what “good” looks like. What would good diversification of land ownership in Scotland look like, compared with what we have at present? How would that be monitored post implementation of the bill over the course of, let us say, the next five or 10 years to see whether it is making progress?

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Land Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 18 February 2025

Michael Matheson

In your view, the transfer test is a public interest test. It is not a public interest test that applies at the point of acquisition of the land, however. Why is that the case?