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Official Report: search what was said in Parliament

The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 March 2026
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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Keith Brown

I notice that a comparison is not made between Scotland and Wales or Northern Ireland, so is the comparison with England as supplemented by UK expenditure on acquisitions?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Keith Brown

The comparison with Europe refers more generally to culture. I have heard Scotland compared to Lithuania, Ireland and the Czech Republic. The vital difference between Scotland and those countries is that Scotland is not a sovereign state and does not have access to full powers and so on. Are there any available comparisons with autonomous regions or devolved areas in Europe, or are there only comparisons with independent countries?

Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 18 September 2025

Keith Brown

Coming back to the visitor levy, you will know that it is dependent on whether councils want to progress with it. Therefore, I am interested in the fact that it is appearing in what are essentially budget submissions to the Scottish Government. Is the ask that the Scottish Government, which is leaving this entirely to councils, be more forceful in asking councils, first of all, to have such a levy, and, secondly, to direct those proceeds to culture, museums and whatever else? That question is for any of the witnesses, but I think that it is an absolutely legitimate approach, and it should perhaps be the first call on any such revenues. After all, that is how you build investment for the future and bring in future visitors. However, what is the ask here, and of whom is it being made?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

I was interested to read about the £11 million settlement. Many people will be reassured to hear that public authorities will challenge contracts that have not been properly delivered. Was any part of that process either informed by or done in conjunction with Audit Scotland? Did it help with that, or was it taken forward solely by HIE?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

It will be for others to judge, but it would be useful to know whether you believe that you have met the concerns that have been raised. I suppose that that was the point of my question. As for other recommendations made by Audit Scotland and the Auditor General, there will be different views on their impact and scope, but do you consider those recommendations to have influenced your current practices? If so, can you give any examples of that?

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

Audit Scotland said that it wants the Government or public bodies to do that and that it wants clarity and more certainty around some of those things. However, it is odd, because there is no evidence or analysis around the issue that would back up that call—that is my concern.

My second question is about schemes. I am thinking about a scheme in Milnathort, which is an area that I used to represent. Just before I was elected, a £5.5 million flood defence was introduced—that was a hard flood defence—but it failed at the first time of asking. Subsequently, the World Wide Fund for Nature did a lot of work upstream, if you like, with farmers, by planting and so on, and we have never had a recurrence of that failure. Has any analysis been done of the efficacy of the different forms of flood defences that are mentioned in the report?

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

Given those actions, do you believe that you have met the concerns that were raised previously about transparency and accountability? I know that it will be an on-going thing.

Public Audit Committee

Cairngorm Funicular Railway

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

I am the new boy on the committee, so my questions might not be exactly as they should be.

You talked about how you work with Audit Scotland. How does HIE respond to concerns about transparency and accountability? You will know that issues were raised in previous reviews. Will you outline what those concerns were and how you have responded to them?

Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

First, I go back to the very start of the discussion, when reference was made—this is in the report, too—to instances in which some communities might be more likely to advance their case more effectively, if I can put it that way, particularly where high-value homes are concerned. The convener was quite passionate when asking about that.

I think that we could all agree that, intuitively, that would make sense, but I am conscious that you said that there was no analysis and no evidence of that, unless I picked that up wrong. You said that the issue came up with stakeholders. Are you able to say which stakeholders raised that?

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Public Audit Committee

“Flooding in communities: Moving towards flood resilience”

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Keith Brown

Yes. I would just say that I am aware of some councils that have been so incensed by the Accounts Commission’s work that they have threatened not to pay the fees for it; I know that that is a very problematic thing to happen. They feel that the burden of scrutiny, which relates to the question whether it is proper audit scrutiny, is now becoming very onerous.

I got involved in local government in the early 1990s, so my experience probably pre-dates yours, Andrew. Since that time, the range of things that the Accounts Commission and the auditors, and Audit Scotland, look at has grown hugely. For example, I have seen comments on the quality of politicians in different local authorities. Even in the report that we are discussing today, I note the wide range of commentary that goes beyond the two areas—which, I agree with the Auditor General, are crucial and important—of value for money and ensuring that money is being spent properly and legitimately.

The report before us mentions, for example—Andrew, you mentioned it, too—the need for a line of sight and some longer-term certainty on strategies. However, there seems to be no acknowledgement of the nature of the funding that goes to the Scottish Government, by which I mean the certainty of funding. The position now is certainly more uncertain than I can ever remember it being. Even this year, we are going to have to present a budget to the Parliament before we know what the settlement is from Westminster, and there is chopping and changing from year to year.

You now comment in your reports on a range of different things, but I question whether sufficient regard is given to the wider environment. I acknowledge that you have mentioned the very constrained environment in which local authorities are working. However, in general, whether it is the on-going effects of the financial crisis in 2008; the constrained public sector budgets—I will not say “austerity”—that we have seen for 15 years now, since 2010; or the effects of the pandemic, there seems to be no recognition of those constraints. To me, it would be of more value, if you want to go into those other areas and comment on what Governments, public bodies or councillors should do, to hear those constraints being acknowledged.