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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
Is there a way of using some of those infrastructure improvements for other meat, such as beef, lamb and chicken? Meat travels a huge number of food miles, so could we try to keep all of it within local food chains?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
As part of the panel of advisers, NatureScot would obviously be giving advice, but anybody else on that panel would know that, at the end of the day, it is the regulator. That would create a bit of an imbalance on the panels, because the gamekeeper, who will be making sure that everybody else complies with whatever comes out of that panel’s advice, will also be sitting on the panel. It just seems that that would set an imbalance for people.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
I guess that the conflict lies in the fact that an advisory panel gives advice and it is up to Government whether it takes that advice. If the advice was different from the decision that was made, NatureScot would still have to police compliance with that, even though the panel obviously did not agree with the decision or want it to be implemented.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
Yes, but if its advice is different from the action that is taken, how can you then say that it is an impartial enforcer?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
It is just that they can do that on land that they tenant, not on land where excess numbers of deer are having an impact. I am not saying that properly—what I mean is that the deer move about and, if they are not caught in the act, the occupier cannot do anything.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
Having a separation of powers is a well-known way of working—the person in charge of policing something does not make the regulation. If someone does not agree with what is being proposed in discussions that have been carried out in an open forum, how can people trust them to regulate the implementation of that in a transparent way? You say that the NatureScot members on the panels are public officials and they are bound not to work in a detrimental way, but they are still human beings. That is why we tend to have that separation of powers, whereas it feels like there is a real conflict in the proposal that is before us. It is fine if everything is working and everyone is in agreement, but you would not need those panels if everyone was in full agreement. How do you prevent the conflict?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
This is off the top of my head—I know that we do not have a great deal of time, convener. Let us say that the advisory panel says that we need to get deer numbers down to five per hectare and NatureScot says that 10 per hectare would be fine. NatureScot would have to police getting that number down to five. What confidence could people have that NatureScot would police that when everyone knows that it thinks that 10 is the right number?
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
Would the bill benefit from the inclusion of a collection of target-setting criteria such as those that were included in the climate legislation, which could set the parameters for those targets? That was suggested by Open Seas.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
So, it is about co-ordinating the other pieces of legislation.
Rural Affairs and Islands Committee
Meeting date: 4 June 2025
Rhoda Grant
If we bear in mind that delegated powers already exist in this area, why is a new, single, overarching power needed to enable Scottish ministers to modify Scottish EIA legislation and the habitats regulations?