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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
Would you like to add to that, Andy?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
Is that what you are saying?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
I thought that what I mentioned was in Andy Hubble’s submission, but it is in Fraser Stevenson’s, from the British Fireworks Association. I apologise.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
Norman Donald said that there was scope for more use of fireworks for celebrating. I have to express concern about the notion that the industry position would be just to have fireworks all year round and, if there was an increase in the use of them, we would not do anything. As you said, even with good intentions, firework displays in the back garden are going to annoy the neighbours, especially if they have animals.
I do not have the answer, but surely there is food for thought. If people celebrate the birth of their baby, or whatever, by using fireworks, does that not imply that there would be a further increase in their use, albeit legitimate and legal—after all, who would not want to be there? Do you not see that having such activity all year round is a problem for society?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
No—I was talking about setting them off. You did not take my point.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
Forensically, you could tell the difference. At the end of the day, it does not really matter, if the firework goes off in a public place.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
Thank you.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 23 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
You have responded to a lot of questions about licences, and I will not go over those issues again. I have one remaining question. A significant number of respondents to the Scottish Government’s consultation were in favour of some kind of licensing scheme, and there were a significant number of responses to the consultation. Do you have a view on why that was? Could it have been because people do not feel that the current law is being enforced?
Rona Mackay’s point is also important. This is not just about antisocial behaviour. In most communities, noise after a certain time is a disturbance, but that is outwith the law. That may be what is influencing people. What is your view?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
So far, from the evidence that I have heard, we can fully understand why everybody opted for a licensing scheme and not a complete ban. As Chief Inspector Robison and others have said, we do not want to spoil people’s enjoyment. However, there are still pretty serious antisocial behaviour incidents that we want to get under control.
One of my main worries is that, so far, the system seems to be quite complex. There would be certain days and certain times when people could not use fireworks, so the public would need to be clear on that, because they are the ones on whom the police would rely to report that there had been an offence. That is one of my primary concerns.
Like Rona Mackay, as she outlined in her line of questioning, I do not favour a ban. However, I ask myself whether a ban would be easier to police, because the proposed system seems to be pretty complex. My first question is for Chief Inspector Nicola Robison. How confident are you, given the complexity of a licensing scheme, and all that has been said, that the bill would actually tackle the antisocial behaviour element of the misuse of fireworks?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 21 March 2022
Pauline McNeill
That answer is helpful.
I know that some members have questions about exclusion zones, and I do not want to cross into that. However, given what you have said, it seems obvious that exclusion zones might be the only way in which the system could work, as it would not be easy to use the complex rules in the licensing scheme to control or stop antisocial behaviour.
I represent the city of Glasgow, and Pollokshields is notorious for fireworks misuse. I am not confident that all those cases are being prosecuted—reporting is another issue. Is it your understanding that that is the kind of area in which an exclusion zone might be used? If it is not, then how will we use the legislation to home in on a serious misuse of fireworks in some communities beyond 5 November?