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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 August 2025
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Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

What was it about? I can just ask it. [Interruption.] Oh, the code of practice. I now know what it is—thank you very much.

What is the justification for having a statutory code of practice when you already have licensing?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

You do not think that that is overkill. Oh—I should not have used that expression. I should have said, “You do not think that that is over the top.”

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

What is the status of a code of practice in court proceedings?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

It is just something to have regard to. It is persuasive rather than determinative.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

If someone did not comply regularly with such recommendations and did not take such advice, it could lead to a determination being made with regard to their licence.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

It must seem a bit odd to the public that, in the example—which I have not seen—of one suffering animal and one dead animal beside each other, the SSPCA can be involved with one case but not with the other.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

So, they are actual live proceedings in that somebody has been served with a charge.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

He is wise! That is not very like a politician.

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

In that case, to whom will the licence be granted? After all, many large estates in Scotland are owned by corporate organisations that are registered abroad and are therefore not subject to Scottish jurisdiction. I wonder whether Mr Munro, your solicitor, will explain this to me. How will you ensure that, if a licence is breached, there is somebody—a named person—who can be taken to court and that things do not happen vicariously?

Rural Affairs and Islands Committee

Wildlife Management and Muirburn (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Christine Grahame

Just to complicate things a bit more, I know that land can be owned by several landowners across several estates. If there are multiple owners of the land, none of whom is resident in Scotland, to whom is the licence granted? The issue that I am trying to get at is how we ensure that people are liable, so that when someone asks, “Who is liable?”, we can say, “I know—it’s this person.”