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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

That is brilliant. Does that work form an active part of the fuel poverty standard process?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

Hello, everybody. Thank you for coming along. The first question theme is funding stability and longer-term funding. Pretty much everybody who responded to the call for views underscored the instability that is caused by the lack of multiyear funding. Equally, however, Social Enterprise Scotland highlighted that there are potential drawbacks to multiyear funding, such as missing deadlines, the possibility of failure to secure funding and the possibility of longer wait times before reapplying. That is an interesting juxtaposition—obviously, it is important that we consider multiyear funding but, equally, there is that juxtaposition—and I am interested in what the panel thinks about both sides of the issue. I am going to work my way down the line, so I invite Sheghley Ogilvie to start.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

That suggests to me that there are added benefits, but equally there is the possibility of increased red tape, more processes and different ways of doing things. Is that not just going to create a really muddy pool when we look at funding? I am sorry, Sarah; I know you raised the point, but I need to speak to everybody. Mr Westwater, could you answer along those lines? Does that approach not just muddy the water?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

I appreciate that. I have one last wee question. There is also a rural aspect to fuel poverty, and Scottish Land & Estates suggested speaking to rural landlords about that. Did you do that?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

Have rural landlords been involved in those discussions, not just Scottish Land & Estates?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee [Draft]

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 5 September 2024

Roz McCall

Okay. Thank you, minister.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Roz McCall

Good morning to the minister and officials. I am the last member to speak, so this will not take long now.

It is disappointing that the equality impact assessment did not come out until Friday last week, particularly as that was after we had spoken to stakeholders. Although I accept that the assessment says that the bill is anticipated to have a positive impact on all equality groups, we have not been able to scrutinise that with stakeholders in the past couple of weeks.

First, why was the assessment published only last week? How would you respond to concerns that we have heard while taking evidence that the issues are not really being recognised? I would also appreciate your response to a comment by Homeless Network Scotland, which said:

“We need to up our game on this and ensure that we look through an equalities-competent lens at prevention duties into the overall Bill”.

I am interested in what you have to say about that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Roz McCall

As much as I accept that there will be 32 variations, which is the way to go, because that gives local democracy a way to work through that, I am reassured by the minister that there will be adequate resource and financing for our rural communities in the way that the legislation is implemented.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Roz McCall

Thank you. Anyone who is on the committee will know that the rural lens is a big issue for me. The committee has heard about the unique characteristics of homelessness and fuel poverty in rural areas. There are concerns that the bill does not recognise that and those were very much highlighted at one meeting. In what ways will the bill’s proposals support the prevention of homelessness in rural areas? I am interested in hearing you expand on that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 27 June 2024

Roz McCall

I accept that, but we are hearing another, “Bear with us, we’ll do it over the summer,” so I will repeat the previous comment, which is that we really need to see more detail about what that will actually mean, so that we can carry out proper scrutiny.