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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 6 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

That is very convenient. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Who would like to go first?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

We have spoken about the presumption of mainstreaming. How is that understood by the parent population? How is it implemented in schools, particularly in those with additional support for learning hubs? Here, in Edinburgh, there is currently an issue whereby parents are being told that their children cannot go to schools with enhanced support bases because the council has made a decision to roll out additional support provision to every school. Again, the issue is communication. How is the duty on mainstreaming understood and implemented on the ground so that parents understand what is happening in schools?

My second question is about the flexibility provided by hybrid models, which Peter Bain mentioned. I have heard that such flexibility is not being offered, whereas it should be if we are to allow as many people as possible to take part in education. Will you comment on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

That was nice and short. I like short, succinct questions from my colleagues.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

Mike Corbett wants to respond as well.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

We will move on to questions from Stuart McMillan on the theme of resources.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

We have spoken a lot about training, and I noticed that the submission from the Children and Young People’s Commissioner Scotland said that there is a

“Lack of political will, technical knowledge and capacity in implementing the right to inclusive education, including insufficient education of all teaching staff”,

which, as we have heard, can include the support assistants that Sylvia Haughney mentioned.

In terms of developing the skills and tackling the increase in the number of pupils with what Peter Bain called mid-range issues, how often should training be taking place, what should it look like and should it be mandatory? We have heard that, sometimes, even though opportunities to access training are provided on in-service training days, people can avoid that training because it is not mandatory.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I would like to challenge you a little bit on that. Earlier, we spoke about the challenges around de-escalating issues in classrooms and the fact that, if teachers were better able to do that, it would be better for pupils’ wellbeing. Therefore, should that training be mandatory, given that it would help the overall delivery of education for everyone, including the teaching staff?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I mean that they could identify the needs and get someone to provide the training to address those needs.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Additional Support for Learning Inquiry

Meeting date: 21 February 2024

Sue Webber

I am sorry, but I need to stop you there. In this role, I have my eye on the clock, and we still need to cover a whole lot of stuff.