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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

Do you have a brief supplementary, Mr Kerr?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

My understanding is that he gave quite a precise answer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

In the interests of time, I will move on to questions from Stephanie Callaghan.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

Certainly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

That is fine. We will jump ahead.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

I thank Ross Greer very much for waiting—we come to questions from you now, Ross.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

From the visit that I took part in earlier this week, I know that some providers charge the same fees, irrespective of where the young person comes from, but it was also intimated that that might not be the case everywhere.

Does anyone else want to comment?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

We move to questions from Bob Doris.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

I thank everyone for their time. We covered a lot of ground. I suspend the meeting to allow for a comfort break.

10:58 Meeting suspended.  

11:10 On resuming—  

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 26 April 2023

Sue Webber

Our next agenda item is consideration of our recent external visits to the young offenders institution at Polmont and to two secure units, as part of the committee’s scrutiny of the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill. The bill proposes that 16 and 17-year-olds will no longer be held in young offenders institutions and that, should 16 and 17-year-olds need to be detained, that will generally be in secure accommodation. The bill will also provide for young people who are in secure accommodation to potentially remain there after they turn 18, although that will depend on the individual circumstances and would not apply beyond the age of 18.

Given the proposed changes, committee members visited YOI Polmont and the secure accommodation centres St Mary’s Kenmure and Rossie. The committee is very grateful to the governor of YOI Polmont, Gerry Michie, and to Jim Shields at St Mary’s Kenmure, and Mary Geaney—I am sorry if I got that name wrong; it was just Mary when we met—at Rossie, and their respective teams, for facilitating the visits. We are also grateful to all the staff whom we met for taking the time to speak with us, show us round their facilities and explain how they support young people in their care. I also thank the young people with whom we had the opportunity to speak.

I thank everyone for their time today. The public part of today’s meeting is now at an end and we will consider our final agenda items in private.

11:12 Meeting continued in private until 12:25.