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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 19 September 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I will take a brief supplementary from Liam Kerr.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I am heartened by what you have said, cabinet secretary. Going back to cosy conformity, how actively have you looked at diversity, particularly cognitive and cultural diversity, in the various roles that are in place?

The tradition is to have experts only in the chosen field, but the data tells us that bringing people in from other areas—as part of a mix, of course, because we need their expertise—can be highly effective. The data also tells us that it can be fairly disastrous to only involve people from certain sectors. I am thinking about the banking sector in 2008, for example. What active consideration have you given to the roles to which you might seek to appoint people or to refresh—without setting any hares running, obviously?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

We will go back to Pam Duncan-Glancy. Thank you for allowing that interjection.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Yes.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Finally, cabinet secretary, you have spoken about resetting your relationship with local authorities and the way that you work together. I am interested in what scorecard you might give to the City of Edinburgh Council, which is looking to deliver £8.2 million of cuts to the devolved school management fund—if you are aware of that.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

It is on the front page of the Edinburgh Evening News today.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

As you will know, cabinet secretary, last week we had before us one of your ministers, the Minister for Higher and Further Education. The part of the budget that we were discussing at that meeting set out a cut in the resource budget for further and higher education. Last year, those budgets faced in-year cuts. Last week, the minister could not, when he was asked about it, rule out that happening again for the coming year. What can you say about whether further in-year cuts may be likely to happen in 2024-25?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I am asking for some real clarity and detail as to where the £56 million has come from and how it has come about. It would be good, if it is possible, to get some more detail on the specifics of that. Cabinet secretary, you mentioned a number of programmes, but it would be good to see what proportion of that £56 million came from each of those.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you.

Can you say something about how colleges and universities can approach the overall skills reform agenda at a time when they are facing significant financial pressures? Perhaps you can also dig into what assistance the Scottish Government and the Scottish Funding Council can offer those institutions when we are moving through that period of reform.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I agree with that, but I am saying that, for the next five to six years, we will see an upward trajectory of 17 and 18-year-olds coming into education and looking for further and higher education. I am addressing the fact that, although we will see reductions further down the line, right now we are facing a peak in numbers.