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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 12 July 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

It was Michelle Thomson who made that reference to the health secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Before we finish this part of the session, Michelle Thomson will come in very briefly.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Welcome back. We will continue taking evidence from the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills, moving to questions on the education reform agenda.

Alongside the cabinet secretary for the second session are the Scottish Government officials Clare Hicks, who is the director for education reform, and Laura Murdoch, who is the deputy director of the curriculum and qualifications division. I invite the cabinet secretary to make some brief opening remarks on the education reform agenda before we move to questions. You have up to three minutes, cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I am sure that all the topics that you mentioned will be brought up as we progress through this session. We will kick off with questions from Michelle Thomson.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I am talking about the cut of £56 million to the SFC’s budget under the line that was described—I think—as “demand-led programmes”.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

“Opponent” is an interesting choice of word—it makes it quite confrontational.

I will come back to the 1,200 places for university students that have been removed. It is interesting that we are seeing fewer young people coming into various points of our education system, particularly in the early years, whereas at other points—among 15, 16 and 17-year-olds—the numbers are increasing. In fact, the number of 18-year-olds in our education system right now is on an upward trajectory, and it will follow that course for the next five to six years, so it seems a bit counterintuitive to reduce the number of places for first-year students by 1,200. Do you have any comments on that? What data on school-age children at various stages do you use to determine your budget and priorities?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

I am conscious of time—we still have quite a bit to go through, and I want to get it all covered today. I call Ross Greer.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Cabinet secretary, you have spoken a lot about different aspects of education reform and how you are looking to feed back some of your thoughts about that. On the subject of how you are going about your business now, how are implementation and evaluation being embedded into your thinking and the approach that you are taking? We are looking at a quite complex future as you juggle all the on-going reform.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

In response to my earlier questions on demand-led programmes, you said that you were expecting some more information to come, so I will not ask you to respond for a second time to that question, cabinet secretary.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25 and Education Reform

Meeting date: 17 January 2024

Sue Webber

Briefly.