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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
Kirsten Horsburgh, I do not think that anybody disagrees that there should be diversion from prosecution and that more support in the community is needed for people who have addictions. However, in your evidence, you mentioned the words “punitive sanctions” quite a lot. You have also said that people have been put into prison for drug offences. Is there any data about why people have been sent to jail? I am interested to know whether you mean that people have been sent to jail for a drug offence alone, or whether it is because they have committed murder, raped somebody or assaulted somebody while on drugs.
I agree with Rona Mackay, who said that too many women are in prison, and many are in for shoplifting. However, I speak to retailers who work in shops, and they say the shoplifting is prolific. Usually, assault is involved, and people are charged with shoplifting multiple times before they go to jail. Is there any data on what people have been sent to prison for? Is it only drug offences that they are being sent for or, along with being addicted to drugs, have they done multiple other things?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
You mentioned police warnings. Is there any data that would enable us to see whether there has been any change in drug use or habits since recorded police warnings were introduced? I ask because, since those came into effect, green—I think that that is what it is called—can be smelled everywhere, whether you are walking along the street in cities or wherever. You did not used to smell it anywhere.
Since the practice of issuing police warnings came into effect, has there been a change in drug use? Have people started to think, “Oh, well—nothing’s gonnae happen to me”? Has that encouraged people to have drugs, because it has no consequences?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
Do you have specific treatments for alcohol misuse?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
I will move on to alcohol use in prisons. Although much of the focus in relation to substance use in prisons is on drugs, could you advise the committee whether alcohol is also an issue, whether illicit alcohol is produced in prisons and what has been done to tackle the matter?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
It seems to be a huge rise. There were 49 call-outs in the first three and a half months of 2025 alone. There has been a huge increase in the amount of call-outs in the time between when the prison was privately run and now, so it would be interesting to see whether there is a difference in the amount of drugs that are getting into HMP Kilmarnock now.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
In your submission, you said that the use of e-cigarettes or vapes is
“the contributing factor to the increase in drug taking in prisons”.
Are the drugs coming in via the vapes? You said that saturated items are coming into the prisons. Are individuals using the vapes to smoke them, or do the drugs actually come in with the vapes?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
So, the vapes are not actually coming in with drugs in them.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
So, you are saying that there needs to be earlier intervention in the community to stop such people going down the route of committing multiple offences, which makes retailers victims, given that such people commit multiple offences before they are eventually sent to prison.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
That would be good. Detective Chief Superintendent Higgins, do you want to comment on whether there are any penalties for someone who is caught sending in a drone or bringing drugs into prisons? Is a penalty or charge used as a deterrent? If there is no deterrent, people will continue to do it, so is something in place that prevents them from wanting to?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 May 2025
Sharon Dowey
Do you want to comment on that, Kirsten?