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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 15 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Craig Hoy

Fine. Mr Henderson, different submissions to the committee have taken different positions on the fairness, equity and proportionality of such a scheme, given that it seems to be falling on a relatively small number of shoulders. However, at the end of the day, it will probably be house buyers who will pay some of the remediation costs for prior builds.

You have said that you recognise that there are some issues with proportionality, and you mention the case of leaseholders. Given that there is a significant variation of opinion in the range of submissions that we have had, if it is to be a permanent part of the landscape, as you identify, would the best way to deal with it be through general taxation rather than a specific tax that falls only on a certain section of the construction industry?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Craig Hoy

I said to Liz Smith that, under the Scottish Government’s current definition, Gilmerton, on the fringes of Edinburgh, is a rural area, although it is mostly under concrete now.

You are both very close to the industry. You said that you think that this levy, or tax, depending on how you look at it, will probably have to remain in some form and function into the future. What is potentially the next cladding scandal that we should be alert to at the moment? Is there something that the industry is already looking at and getting a bit concerned about—potentially in relation to safety, Mr Henderson?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning. Mr Drummond, in your submission, you mentioned what you might find when you remove the cladding, and you called it “known unknowns”. At this point in time, on roughly what percentage of buildings that have cladding that needs to be remediated do you anticipate that you would find that further works need to be undertaken—for safety or wind and water tightness, for example?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Craig Hoy

As we start to look at more buildings, we will find that shortcomings and deficiencies might be present in other buildings that do not have cladding. To what extent should the fund be for remediating what is effectively sloppy or, perhaps, dangerous workmanship? As it is, those who are in buildings that have the cladding might see further such remediation work, but those who do not have the cladding will effectively have to live with a dodgy build. Is that what will happen?

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Building Safety Levy (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 October 2025

Craig Hoy

On how we got here, the finger has been pointed at disreputable builders, but there are other professional services that wrap around those firms, so I want to talk about your own code of conduct. You said that there are situations whereby clerks of works and architects are not present throughout the build phase, but surely, if you are commissioned to design a building, your industry’s code of conduct will say something about making sure that you go right through the cycle of the construction process. What does it say about that?

Surely, morally, architects cannot take a large fee—or perhaps a small fee, depending on the nature of the building that they are working with—and then say, “I have designed the building, and I will walk away from it now.” Do you not have a moral obligation to stay throughout?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Good morning, cabinet secretary. In response to Mr Greer, you talked about how you would like to ensure that local government is empowered. I do not say this very often, but I have full sympathy with you in respect of the timing of the UK budget and the knock-on effect that that will have on the Scottish budget. That will also have a knock-on effect for Scottish councils; they are very concerned that they are in effect the last link in the chain, which could cause them real issues.

However, there are certain things that you could do now to make their job easier. In respect of your remarks to Mr Greer, do you rule out a council tax freeze next year in order to allow councils to start their modelling earlier?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Looking forward, which is, obviously, the purpose of this evidence session, how concerned are you, on a scale of one to 10, about the underlying issues that we now face in the budget, in terms of both your projected spend and your projected revenues?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

You would concede, however, that enhancing the benefit system is one thing, but having more people on an equivalent benefit is a much deeper problem. When they were in front of us, Professor Ulph and Professor Breedon accepted that there was an issue around transfers; they said that they had relative confidence that an underlying trend exists in the Scottish system that is of concern. That will emerge quite clearly between now and the end of the decade.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

What message does it send if the Scottish Government says that it will in effect just let £36 million of taxpayers’ money go?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Craig Hoy

Perhaps the media coverage spoke to another narrative.