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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 June 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

My next question is for Jan Savage and Nicola Killean. I ask Jan to comment first. As commissioners, you will be given additional responsibilities and powers through the bill. This issue will be important as we look ahead to the human rights legislation, too. How will the amended bill affect your current work? What additional resources, expertise and skills will you and your organisations need to make sure that, when you are required to take legal action, you can do so in a meaningful way?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Fiona, do you want to comment, given the statutory obligations that the Law Society has? Do you see any need for thinking differently in your work?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is helpful. In the conversations that you, COSLA and others have had, do you get the sense that there is a shared understanding across different partners of what that guidance needs to say?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Is there a danger that that might undermine the culture of compliance that we want to support and encourage and that we want to see going beyond the letter of the law?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Thank you—that is helpful. I suppose that that links to the point that you made earlier. If we—by “we”, I mean us collectively, not us in Parliament or you separately—do not get the guidance and the resource allocation right, do you think that there is a danger that, because we are worried about litigation, duty bearers might focus exclusively on the legal elements rather than the bits that are not included in incorporation because they involve UK acts rather than Scottish Parliament acts, to the detriment of the excluded areas when it comes to providing the service?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the three of you. Thank you for joining us today. I want to drill down into some of the legal complexities and their impacts, primarily, for local government—Tony Buchanan—and for Police Scotland, Derek Frew. In your opening statement, Tony, you talked about the close partnership working that you have had, which you hope will continue, in working out some of the concerns around identifying for you, for the public and for everybody which functions are in and which are out.

This question perhaps echoes some of the points that we heard earlier. We know that the legal redress side of things is only one component of the legislation. There is a whole host of other bits in the UNCRC, and in other legislation, that are about rights protections for children and young people. Given that duty bearers are encouraged and asked to act in compliance anyway, can you unpick a little bit more the exact complexities and tensions that you have identified and whether there are things that we can consider, given the overall point that we should be complying anyway?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Bill: Reconsideration Stage

Meeting date: 31 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

Okay. I will leave it there for now, convener.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

I know that other members want to come in, so I will leave it there.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Bankruptcy and Diligence (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 25 October 2023

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful. I have a general question. Would you support the moratorium if it froze interest and charges in that way?