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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

In that second example, there is the issue of making sure that the support is there consistently, because, say the bus timetable changed or something, the young person might need to go through that process again, but it should not be a defeating moment.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

In some ways, my question follows on from your conversation with Colin Beattie. You have spoken in different ways about the need to change culture and we have heard in previous sessions about people being afraid because they do not know what it will mean to have a disabled young person in their employment or in their education setting and how to support them. One way to overcome that fear and address some of the culture change issues—although it does not tackle them completely—is to show good examples. Could you talk through some clear examples of when it all works? What does “good” look like? You have talked about vocational profiling and about multi-agency approaches. When it works, what does that mean for the people providing the support, for the families and for the young people themselves? Perhaps Anne-Marie Sturrock could start.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Yes, of course.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Is the transition for somebody out of college the same for employment or wherever they are going on to?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

It is not common.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Tracey Francis, what are your views on what “good” looks like?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 22 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

That is really helpful.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 21 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, minister. Thank you for being here this morning.

I seek some reassurance. In your remarks you said what the public sector equality duties are and what these organisations need to do. One of those is to foster good relations. Are you confident that both organisations have the resources that they need to meet their obligations under the Equality Act 2010? Some of the ones that you mentioned are about data gathering, but an obligation to foster good relations is in a different category to those. Are you confident that there are sufficient resources and awareness of what is needed for that specific obligation?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning to the panel. Thank you for joining us and for the information that you have provided us with. I am mindful that Alan Thornburrow has said that things need to start in early education. Some of my colleagues will pick up on that.

Joanna Panese and Carmel McKeogh spoke about businesses wanting to employ people but that there are barriers to their doing so and that they cannot do what they want to do. When businesses are successful in that regard, what makes it work? What is their mindset? We have heard about the use of the social model of disability rather than the medical model, for example. When it works, why does it work?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Disability Employment Gap

Meeting date: 15 May 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thanks very much for that. Charlie McMillan, you were nodding along to that. Earlier, you said that there are good examples but that they are small scale and are not everywhere. What are the barriers to scaling that up or out?