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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
That is fine—I accept that. I just had to ask the question.
In April 2023, the Scottish Trades Union Congress called the university a “rogue employer”. Will you give us some indication of how, in your role as the university leader, you tried to foster good relations with campus trade unions, the broader staff community and students?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
Did you ever suggest or think to suggest that it would be useful to have more direct involvement of staff and students in decision making at different levels of the university? Given the lack of trust and the concerns about transparency, openness and information flow—communication—about which the committee has heard and which are apparent from spending any time on campus, did you ever think that it might be better to have more people involved in the discussions, to share more information and to hear different ideas about different ways of navigating through difficult times?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
There is a report that was produced following the restructuring, which had some pretty robust recommendations for university management about improving communications, openness, transparency and the flow of information. It appears that, over the past couple of years, none of those recommendations was implemented. I challenged the UEG on that previously. Do you recognise that more should have been done to improve some of that and that it might have led to some of the financial questions being raised and, possibly, dealt with earlier?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
I begin my questions today as I did yesterday: I put on the record an interest, which is that I was elected as the rector of the University of Dundee in March and will take up the post in August.
Thank you for your comments so far, Ian Gillespie. You said earlier that you love the university and that you wanted to be part of its future. Why then, when the urgency of the situation came to light in November, when staff and the wider university community were told about the gaping black hole, did you not spend time on campus? Why did you not make yourself available to staff and students? You instead sent your deputy to the first town hall meeting, which was called by campus trade unions to bring staff together to discuss the situation.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
So you would not have perhaps reflected that that might indicate something about the culture of the institution: that, notwithstanding any individual or specific issues, there might be a broader cultural issue.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
So you were not involved in that decision, as far as you can recall.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
The Gillies report clearly states:
“The failure of the University’s financial governance system was self-inflicted and experienced multiple times and at multiple levels.”
Who should pay for that self-inflicted failure?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
That is cold comfort to the nearly 700 people who still have the threat of compulsory redundancy hanging over them. Those 700 people have devoted a lot of their time to the institution, and they live in Dundee or the wider region. It is devastating not just for those individuals but for the city and the wider communities. Should they pay? Is that fair?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
Do you accept, as the leader of the institution, that it is leadership that dictates or directs an institutional culture? It might have had that culture for some time, but you were not there for just a couple of months. There was perhaps time to shift that, yet it appears to have got worse.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 June 2025
Maggie Chapman
You say that it never happened, but you got involved in 2021-22 when you tried to close the University of Dundee superannuation and life assurance scheme—UODSS. Apparently, you said at a meeting that keeping the scheme open would be an existential threat to the university. Do you recall that? It is clearly an example of you getting involved in industrial relations, although you have just told us that you did not really do that.