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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 2 May 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Our next agenda item is to agree to take in private item 3, which is consideration of today’s evidence. Do we agree to take item 3 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Our next agenda item is to take evidence in relation to the pause to the introduction of the proposed learning disabilities, autism and neurodivergence bill. I welcome to the meeting Maree Todd, the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport. The minister is accompanied by Jacqueline Campbell, the unit head for learning disabilities and autism policy, and Carmen Murray, the team leader for the bill.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2 and invite the minister to make a brief opening statement before we move to questions.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Following on from that, the two key strategies that we had—the keys to life strategy and the Scottish strategy for autism—have now come to an end, and a lot of people are wondering what fills that policy gap between now and any introduction of a bill in the future.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you, minister. Just before I pass to Marie McNair, I will pick up on something that you said in your opening remarks, which you said before when it became clear that the LDAN bill was not going forward in this year’s programme for government. You said that one of the reasons for that was the strong and diverse views on some key issues.

However, it was clear from the evidence that we took last week that there is a lot of unanimity and consensus on some of what needs to be done. Will you explain what you see those differences of views as being? Have other pressures influenced the decision not to progress with the bill at this time?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

We move to questions from Clare Adamson.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Thank you very much, minister. We now move to questions and I will kick things off. You mentioned in your opening remarks that there has been a lot of work going into the bill, but we heard very clearly last week that little has changed. Very little has improved for people over three or more decades, despite the strategies and the work that has been in place. Why do you think there has been so little progress over three decades?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 3 December 2024

Maggie Chapman

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the 27th meeting in 2024 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee.

We have received apologies from our convener, Karen Adam, and Clare Adamson is attending as a substitute in Karen’s absence. Welcome, Clare. I invite you to declare any relevant interests.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

If I can move on to my next question—

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

Jamie, can I come to you?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Learning Disabilities, Autism and Neurodivergence Bill

Meeting date: 26 November 2024

Maggie Chapman

We have been talking about things that have been in process for a long time, and I think that the Christie principles on prevention can be included in that, can they not?

Jenny, I know that you want to come in on this as well—go for it.