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Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 16 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
Good morning, cabinet secretary. Thank you for your opening remarks. I will follow on from Jamie Halcro Johnston’s question on measurement. I am interested in exploring two areas, one of which is around the indicators of progress, and measurement feeds into that. Obviously, the inclusive development index is welcome, but how can we take it further to measure intrinsic environmental wellbeing and, importantly, to include the benefits of a care economy? That is implicit in the document, but it does not come out as a significant single thing by itself.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 16 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
That answer is really helpful, and it highlights why I linked those two points. I was thinking about the ability to see the connections between negative or detrimental consequences and supporting those who can mitigate such consequences, thinking about the circular economy in a way that we have not seen previously with this type of strategic investment. I look forward to your update next year.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 16 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
I see the care economy as being about more than just giving people the care that they need so that they can go out to work, but I take your point that it is part of a much wider situation and connects to other things.
It is good to see renewable energy, heat in buildings and decarbonising transport being highlighted as opportunities in the strategy, but how will constrained public funding be structured to enable action in those plans and the delivery that you have spoken about?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
We have got a lot of work to do, and a lot of culture change to get on with. Thank you, convener; I will leave it there.
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
Good morning, Pauline and Jenny, and thank you very much for joining us and for your opening remarks. The statements and testimonies that you have given us are very powerful.
Jenny, I will come to you first. I am interested in exploring some of the physical and mental consequences of the pandemic for people’s wellbeing. You talked about deterioration in physical and mental wellbeing. Can you say a bit more about the health impacts that you saw in the carers whom you support?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
No, Jenny, that is really helpful. Thank you. You mentioned empathetic employment and the adaptations that employers need to think about. Inclusion is good for everybody, not just the people for whom it is designed.
Pauline, do you want to comment on the question as well? You talked earlier about the need for people to feel fulfilled and feel that they are able to do something that they want to do and not just be stuck indoors at home. How have the people you work with and you support felt through the pandemic?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
Pauline, could I bring you in to answer the question on the physical and mental consequences for disabled people and for the people around them?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
I want to follow up on the topic that you both started to explore with Alexander Stewart—financial security—but from the point of view of education and training. Jenny Miller spoke about the poverty trap and people not having access to a range of employment options or having to curtail their paid work because of caring responsibilities. There is also the issue of people curtailing other opportunities, such as skills development, training and education opportunities. I ask Jenny Miller and then Pauline Nolan to say a little more about the impacts on access to education, skills and training that carers and disabled people experienced during the pandemic.
10:45Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 8 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
Thank you—that is really helpful.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 2 March 2022
Maggie Chapman
Thank you for that information. To build on Michelle Thomson’s questions, I too, in reading your annual report, picked up on the phrase
“updating legacy IT systems and evolving our IT estate onto a long-term sustainable basis.”
You talked about the two sets of contractors that you currently have: those who are working on the new systems that you are developing, who will not be needed in the long term; and the “keeping the show on the road” folk, whom you want to bring in-house as ROS employees. I understand that, and I take on board your comments to Michelle Thomson.
I am interested in the updating process. From what you have said, and from what I have read in the documentation, that has been going on for a while. How are you managing that process alongside the aspects that Claire Baker asked about—the actual work of ROS and managing the arrears? How do you see the balance of risk and resource allocation between those two aspects?
Thinking about the longer term, I note that you talked about bringing down the cost of contractors in the future. In mapping, certain things can change very quickly. Are you certain that you will have resources available when you need them? I am thinking about the skills and expertise that you may not want to keep in-house, but for which you will need contractors in the future. How is that playing out in your mapping for future financing and resourcing?