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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
Thank you, minister, for being with us this morning. I welcome you and your officials.
I have some questions on accountability for equalities and human rights. In some ways, they follow on from Kevin Stewart’s questions and points that he picked up. They are about how we understand the impact of decisions on people who use services, whether or not they are vulnerable and marginalised.
One of the questions for us is how we track analysis of impact from previous decisions into future decisions. Will you say a little bit about what we need to do to better understand impacts from past decisions before we even begin to think about future decisions?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
I appreciate that we are at the beginning of the process and that, although we have done a lot of mainstreaming, there is still a lot of work to do. However, one of the challenges is that, when we look at what is happening in communities and neighbourhoods around Scotland, we see rising inequality and more people being threatened with exploitation at work and modern slavery-type situations. Are we on the way to following the pound—to better understanding that a particular investment will mean that someone does not fall into modern slavery? Do we have mechanisms for tracking such specific impacts?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 27 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
I appreciate that. It is worth saying that, if it was easy to track the impact of spending, we would have been doing it by now. I appreciate that the process is not easy.
However, I sometimes wonder whether we look at equality and human rights accountability from the wrong end of the telescope. Last week, there was an interesting discussion in the Scottish Parliament on different strategies for tackling poverty. Somebody posed this question: what if our starting point in every budget was to look at everything through the lens of eliminating or reducing child poverty? If the starting point for everyone, whether it is the Cabinet Secretary for Transport or the Cabinet Secretary for Wellbeing Economy, Net Zero and Energy, is that every decision that is made needs to address child poverty and other such issues, we will start to get very different types of decisions.
Over the coming year—in some ways, next year’s budget process starts now, as we conclude this year’s budget process—will there be space for those conversations, not only with your Government colleagues but with external stakeholders who have routes into understanding the impacts and who have experience of assessing every decision that they make through a rights-based lens, because this is about rights realisation? What are your thoughts on that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 20 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the fifth meeting in 2024 of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. We have received no apologies for our meeting.
As members will be aware, Kaukab Stewart has resigned as convener of the committee, following her appointment as Minister for Culture, Europe and International Development. For that reason, I am chairing this part of the meeting in my capacity as deputy convener. I take this opportunity to put on the record our thanks to Kaukab for her work, and I wish her well in her new role.
Under our first agenda item, the committee is invited to choose a new convener. The Parliament has agreed that only members of the Scottish National Party are eligible for nomination as convener of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee.
Do we have any nominations for convener?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 20 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
Congratulations, Karen. I hand over the chair to you.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
I have another question about that, which will take us off on another tangent.
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
Okay. I will follow up on that theme. I have a question about the broader social benefits that we are supposed to get from procurement changes and improvements, with a focus on reducing inequality. Do we—the Government or whoever—collect data on what contractors and subcontractors are doing and what their supply chains are? Do we know about the environmental and social impacts or whether there is a focus on reducing inequality? Are we collecting the right data? If not, whose responsibility is it to do so? Who can bring all of that together, given what has been said about the burden of bureaucracy and all the administration?
11:00Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
When you say more engagement, with whom? What should the committee recommend?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
I will come back to you, Colin, as the question has moved on. Are there any other things that you wish to say in response?
Economy and Fair Work Committee
Meeting date: 7 February 2024
Maggie Chapman
My final question—